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I’m going to assume that unless you put in all the legally allowed camber via “its ability to gain significant negative camber via factory authorized methods” this won’t be even remotely competitive.
 
There must have been someone who prepped one and competed and won by a large margin for them to have come to this conclusion?
Anyone on here having any luck being competitive in DS so far?
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There was a fellow who won the Pro Solo in New Jersey and another that finished 4th in class at a Tour in California. The other national results that I am aware of is when we ran the car stone stock (last minute switch due to broken car) at the Lincoln double (Pro/Tour) and finished damn near last in S4/DS. We ran the Oklahoma Pro this weekend with 3-dot Toyota crash bolts (-2.8 max & not the 4 degrees+ someone at SCCA stated ) and the Custco rear bar. It was a completely different car and we were closer to the class in S4. Still needs at least single adjustable dampers to help compensate for the soft springs. Other impressions understanding that I have been in Miatas for 20 years and on Hoosier A7s for the last 10: You can't see anything forward of the wipers so slalom timing is tricky. Went the motor decides it is heat soaked it will pull power without warning, almost like lifting throttle. If you drive in shorts the driver's side door handle will give you friction burns. Running a Pro you need to have a flapper on the front as the squat when you launch in 30/70 leads to red lights. We ran it down to 20 miles left on the fuel gauge with no starve. All this being said the car goes back to being what I purchased it for. A fun street car. Did not intend to autocross it and certainly won't on a B-Street classing. Their decision is another damper on my enthusiasm for the SCCA side of the sport.
 
I've found very similar results, I'm running around -3 neg camber and stock size RT660 tires and just ran a local event (we are on a ashphalt runway that is narrow so lots of slaloms transitions not many sweepers) ended up 5th in class. We have a Elantra N with the DCT and a new gen Golf R with DCT and torque vectoring diff (DS cars) and my co-driver and I had a hard time getting close to those two the golf R has well over -2 deg negative camber, more power, DCT with better ratios, Torque vectoring rear diff and wider wheels then the GRC. It seems a little excessive to make this move based on the limited results that have been posted so far, they should have at least given it the year before making these decisions.

I also own a GR Supra and it makes no sense to put the GRC in the same class as a stock Supra.......I've autocrossed it for 2 years first year stock and last year SST prepped.



 
I think DS has really healthy competition that they don’t want the GRC to potentially disrupt this.

It may get re-classed to DS as more data becomes available.

Let this be a lesson to not buy a brand new platform and expect to be competitive right away.

It’s possible the GRC is competitive in the hands of an alien driver.
 
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Ive seen a stock GRC with race tires and oem camber bolts that keep it in DS be extremely competitive. In the right hands this thing is a beast. out of the 3 events Ive been to in the last couple months, he comes out top 5 overall every time.

BS is not nearly as active as DS in my area either.
 
Hey guys! Im the guy that won the prosolo in New Jersey! I am pretty disappointed that they based themselves on only one event to take a big decision like that.

Something to consider is that my car was not that much prep.. -2.6camber 0 toe and 265 CRS(2023 version). I will do an other national tour event in two weeks so that will be a good reference. But since NJ prosolo i bought some Morizo shocks and an front Cusco bar and i will go at the maximum camber possible (-3.2)so i might have more grip for this event. The GRC is an easy car to drive but it need to be very aggressive in cornering to take advantage of the LSD's! View attachment 13721
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Hey guys! Im the guy that won the prosolo in New Jersey! I am pretty disappointed that they based themselves on only one event to take a big decision like that.

Something to consider is that my car was not that much prep.. -2.6camber 0 toe and 265 CRS(2023 version). I will do an other national tour event in two weeks so that will be a good reference. But since NJ prosolo i bought some Morizo shocks and an front Cusco bar and i will go at the maximum camber possible (-3.2)so i might have more grip for this event. The GRC is an easy car to drive but it need to be very aggressive in cornering to take advantage of the LSD's! View attachment 13721 View attachment 13722
congrats on your win! maybe next time, sandbag a bit before a national event :)

which mode did you use? 50:50 or 30:70? also what were your pressures?

i've found that if im too aggressive in the corner, the car will just understeer really badly. i have -2.6 front camber as well.

mind sharing your corner entry/exit strategy?
 
congrats on your win! maybe next time, sandbag a bit before a national event :)

which mode did you use? 50:50 or 30:70? also what were your pressures?

i've found that if im too aggressive in the corner, the car will just understeer really badly. i have -2.6 front camber as well.

mind sharing your corner entry/exit strategy?
Thanks!

Im always using 50/50 to get the maximum traction.

For cornering strategy id say that im bringing the more speed i can then brake very hard/trailbrake and the sooner possible i jump on throttle to lock the front diff and pull the front where i want.

I tend to provoque the car in a way that the rear tire get all the load (almost drifting/powerslide)so i can step on the gaz sonner because the car is already pointing where I whan to go.

I feel like ur car's are crazy Subaru build with big power and grip but way easier to drive at the limits.
 
Thanks!

Im always using 50/50 to get the maximum traction.

For cornering strategy id say that im bringing the more speed i can then brake very hard/trailbrake and the sooner possible i jump on throttle to lock the front diff and pull the front where i want.

I tend to provoque the car in a way that the rear tire get all the load (almost drifting/powerslide)so i can step on the gaz sonner because the car is already pointing where I whan to go.

I feel like ur car's are crazy Subaru build with big power and grip but way easier to drive at the limits.
So I am coming from a GR86, so you are saying beating the understeer on 50/50 is by trailbraking late to the apex, keeping weight on the front tires and get on gas hard as the rear end starts to swing?
 
So I am coming from a GR86, so you are saying beating the understeer on 50/50 is by trailbraking late to the apex, keeping weight on the front tires and get on gas hard as the rear end starts to swing?
It depends of the corner...the faster you point the car where you want to go and step on throttle is going to be fasters. I like to have rough input so the car will "drift" and be on throttle early.

I've got a few inboard video on my channel if you want to see what i do.

 
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