[black86]

The lack of information the dealer has is why I won’t be taking my car in, 3 different service departments couldn’t give me oil info or filter PN’s on our cars. Moderate concern for a motor that is brand new and needs the correct lubricants.

this is our factory fill oil, and it’s a special order here in America.

Toyota, Synthetic SP 0W-20 Motor Oil (GR Yaris)

Toyota, Synthetic SP 0W-20 Motor Oil (GR Yaris)

www.racedivision.com.au

I'd like to know the difference between the regular syn and this...

and who makes it for Toyota, so we can get it straight from the source

 

[Jp925]

my understanding is gf-6 is split into two categories 6a and 6b. 6a covers SAE 0W-20, SAE 5W-20, SAE 0W-30, SAE 5W-30, and SAE 10W-30 while 6b only covers SAE 0w16 and that manufacturer dont label a gf-6a as such but leave it as a gf-6.

the oil I will be using is labeled as gf-6 but since it's a 0w20 it should be labeled as gf-6a. so I dunno. I'll keep the bottles if Toyota wants to be fussy about a warranty claim.

Pretty sure the 6a standard is an API SN, after reading spec sheets for the last 3 days it has to have SP and 6a to be “correct” that being said I’m sure it’s fine; as it’s a Toyota not an Aston Martin; but I want the exact spec oil for my car, which means jumping through hoops.

 

[Jp925]

I'd like to know the difference between the regular syn and this... View attachment 6002
and who makes it for Toyota, so we can get it straight from the source

product details show SN C5, unless this gets updated this isn’t our oil; it’s Supra oil.

TOYOTA 0W-20 SN C5 MOTOR OIL FOR GR SUPRA 4 Liter

<p>The Toyota Gazoo Racing 0W-20 SN C5 Motor Oil is an engine oil that was especially developed for the 5th generation Toyota Supra, also called Supra MK5, Supra A90, GR Supra or Supra 2019. It is a high performance engine oil of the viscosity class SAE 0W-20, that is suitable for the use with...

www.customimportarts.com

 

[black86]

Pretty sure the 6a standard is an API SN, after reading spec sheets for the last 3 days it has to have SP and 6a to be “correct” that being said I’m sure it’s fine; as it’s a Toyota not an Aston Martin; but I want the exact spec oil for my car, which means jumping through hoops.

my understanding is gf-5 is equivalent to SN while gf-6 equivalent to SP.

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The American Petroleum Institute (API) is the only national trade association that represents all aspects of America’s oil and natural gas industry. Our more than 600 corporate members, from the largest major oil company to the smallest of independents, come from all segments of the industry.

www.api.org

 

[Sparkko]

I saw this bottle but I don’t think it’s right, our manual specifies an SP 0w-20 that is ILSAC GF-6A.

Thus far valvoline is the only oil I found that matches the requirements. Everyone else says they conform to ilsac-6 not 6a. I’m probably going to give amsoil or motul a call; no one has any info on our cars!

here’s the spec sheet from valvoline.

US_Val_AdvProtectionFullSyn_0W20_MO_EN.pdf - Docusign CLM

sharena21.springcm.com

looks like Motul 8100 eco lite 0w-20 the spec sheet that matches the manual.

https://azupim01.motul.com/media/motulData/DO/base/8100_eco-lite_0w-20_en_fr_motul_20200528.pdf

Funny enough I just did some shopping, and the Walmart brand Supertech oil meets those requirements! lol! Other than Valvoline it is the only oil I've found that is GF-6A.

 

[Jp925]

Funny enough I just did some shopping, and the Walmart brand Supertech oil meets those requirements! lol! Other than Valvoline it is the only oil I've found that is GF-6A.
View attachment 6004

Boom!!!!! Look at that!

 

[black86]

product details show SN C5, unless this gets updated this isn’t our oil; it’s Supra oil.

TOYOTA 0W-20 SN C5 MOTOR OIL FOR GR SUPRA 4 Liter

<p>The Toyota Gazoo Racing 0W-20 SN C5 Motor Oil is an engine oil that was especially developed for the 5th generation Toyota Supra, also called Supra MK5, Supra A90, GR Supra or Supra 2019. It is a high performance engine oil of the viscosity class SAE 0W-20, that is suitable for the use with...

www.customimportarts.com

Amazon.co.jp

NA engines, aka not a gr supra
edit: not for a gr yaris/Corolla either 😆

 

[ijuswannaride]

Whoda thunk it!

 

[black86]

Understanding ILSAC GF-6 | Mobil™ Motor Oils

like I said, unless it says 6B, 6 represents 6A, with the existing weights, while 6B is exclusively for 0w16. look at all api sp 0w16 and they will all say ILSAC GF-6B. why manufacturers are this lazy to put an A after a 6 is beyond me.

 

[Sparkko]

Amazon basics oil meets these requirements also. Same company that makes the Walmart oil. Warren Distribution.

 

[mdp5094]

ok soooooo whats the consensus lol? If it comes down to it, ill buy the oil myself and just get the filter from the dealer. I would like that GR branded oil above honestly. Now everyone's got me feeling like the dealer wont know what they're doing........Which when they initially wrote up my sales paperwork they wrote it up as a corolla SE, and finance guy called me almost a week later and straight up said: "Hey I fucked up" and now you have to redo everything. I do know my dealer gets in Supras and GR86s. I am assuming both of those cars need specific oils and filters etc.

 

[Jp925]

Amazon basics oil meets these requirements also. Same company that makes the Walmart oil. Warren Distribution.
View attachment 6007

this is very cool, we should start an oil thread to note differences of what everyone is using and see if there are any oil consumption, smells, or cooling properties of each.

 

[Sparkko]

ok soooooo whats the consensus lol? If it comes down to it, ill buy the oil myself and just get the filter from the dealer. I would like that GR branded oil above honestly. Now everyone's got me feeling like the dealer wont know what they're doing........Which when they initially wrote up my sales paperwork they wrote it up as a corolla SE, and finance guy called me almost a week later and straight up said: "Hey I fucked up" and now you have to redo everything. I do know my dealer gets in Supras and GR86s. I am assuming both of those cars need specific oils and filters etc.

Consensus seems to be that 0w20 Full Synthetic ILSAC GF-6 rated oil should be fine. I would hope that the dealer has this? I still need the part number for our oil filter though. If I can find one I'm doing my 1000-mile oil change myself then I'll go into the dealer at 5000 miles for another.

 

[Sparkko]

Can someone direct me to the recommended oil change intervals in the owner's manual? I can't find it in there anywhere. I know It's 5000 miles, but I want proof to show the service department if they try to say recommended interval is 10,000 miles.

 

[T1GIR]

Can someone direct me to the recommended oil change intervals in the owner's manual? I can't find it in there anywhere. I know It's 5000 miles, but I want proof to show the service department if they try to say recommended interval is 10,000 miles.

It's not in the thicker manual. It's in the smaller gray booklet. Can't remember the exact name of it and I don't have the car at work with me. Did one come with your car?

 

[Sparkko]

It's not in the thicker manual. It's in the smaller gray booklet. Can't remember the exact name of it and I don't have the car at work with me. Did one come with your car?

Found it! It's in the warranty and maintenance guide. Thanks!

 

[MrBiggs]

What I can gather is if this oil is manufactured by a company that sells it to Walmart and Amazon, that meets the required standards. Then we may just be looking at marketing, and ultimately, for the sake of engineered ouls, removing the brand recognition or bias... you could essentially go to Walmart, save your money and have the same level of protection (if not more).

I've done something similar with previous cars, where I tracked down the exact oil being engineered for another company that Pennzoil was using, but they were charging about half the cost of Pennzoil.

 

[Sparkko]

Is this the correct oil filter for the GRC?
Amazon.com: Genuine Toyota 90915-YZZF2 Oil Filter : Automotive

There isn't much info out there on this yet....

 

[mdp5094]

I just got off the phone with the service manager at my Toyota Dealer, they were NOT under the impression that the car would be given an oil change at every service interval. They just said all I would be getting at 5k miles would be a tire rotation and checking the fluids etc.

The whole reason why I called was to be able to get a break in oil change done on the trans and the oil. He sounded like he didnt have a clue.

So I indicated that according to the Maintenance Service Schedule that came with the car every 5k it would get an oil change and few other things as the mileage piles up etc. So I told him I would email him a PDF of those manuals and forms etc. He also stated that the Supra and GR86's do not get the same treatment as well and have different schedules etc. He said he would reach out to parts about obtaining proper fluids and filters and would let me know tomorrow. But man does this sound like a shit show with the expectations and maintenance etc. I almost want to create a dedicated thread for the 2 years of included maintenance not being what it actually is supposed to be. So any thoughts would be warranted. Let me know.

 

[doktorjak]

Then we may just be looking at marketing

That’s what it is. Same thing every time for decades now.