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Spare tire solution #2: Donut spare

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UPDATE: See a short overview of BOTH spare tire solutions here:



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OK, I did the thread on using the collapsible spare tire from a Maserati, which works fine, but doesn't fit well in the trunk, and is better stored behind one of the front seats.


Longer term, I wanted to use a donut spare that would fit in the trunk. I've bought one, and it seems to fit. Here are the details.

For the wheel, I ended up using an 18x4 spare wheel from a Rav4 Prime. Of course, the Rav4 spare tire is too tall, so I replaced it with a 135/70-18 Yokohama- that size is virtually the same height as the GR normal tires.

(Edit: For one-stop-shopping for complete kits that include a spare wheel, tire, jack and lugwrench, see post #2 for two suppliers of complete spare tire kits.)

Seems like the tire fits fine where the foam is now. It's about the same height.

I'll have to build some structure to hold it in place and secure the jack, air pump, and lugwrench, etc.
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#2 · (Edited)
Although I used an oem Toyota spare wheel and bought a separate tire to mount on it, there are two suppliers of complete spare tire kits for our cars (spare tire mounted on wheel, plus lugwrench and jack) that look like they’d probably be fine.

(Note: I have no experience with either of them.)

Both show 125/70-18 for the tire size, which is very close in diameter to our tires, just 1/2" short. But I'm sure it would be fine, and would fit easier in the trunk.

HERE ARE TWO SUPPLIERS, ONE USES ALLOY WHEEL, ONE USES STEEL WHEEL. EITHER SHOULD LIKELY WORK.

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BELOW IS THIRD SUPPLIER- NOT RECOMMENDED BY ME: There’s a third supplier, EZ-Spare, but I don’t love their “universal” bolt pattern wheels.
UPDATE: One person tried the ezspare and said the bolts didn't fit properly.
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worked at an evo shop for a few years & we had a pile of spares that were leftovers (race car conversions etc.) one late night after a few beers the intern/shop assistant kid suggested putting 4 spares from the pile on one of our personal cars. not only did it make for great AWD burnout/donut fun it had a noticable affect on response & power. so much that we strapped it to the dyno to see if if it was something we were imagining or if the car was actually faster on pizza cutters.

tourque did not change much, but the car did make more HP. in the end it was too small of a diffrence to attribute to just the wheels as the same variance could have been produced by temps/tire pressures, dyno strap tightness etc.

personally i think the primary factor was the spares are inflated to 50+ psi, that coupled with the narrow profile lead to reduced rolling friction. (think riding a bike on under vs over inflated tires) the car may not make any more power and was too traction limited to go any faster, but it sure felt faster.
 
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Maybe someone will come along in the aftermarket making replacement foam for back there with a provision for the donut.
I'll probably chop up my foam and see if that might work.
 
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Once again, the 135/70-18 donut tire size I am using (and recommend) is virtually the same diameter as the 235/40 and 245/40 oem GR tires
 
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EDIT: I deleted the original old video in this post, see post #25 for the finished installation details and updated video.

 
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Thanks for that. Prime opportunity for a “kit” with spare wheel/tire, tools and a new foam tray of some sort to hold things in place. Subwoofer could still be made just mount it on the right hand side and use the extra space there for volume of the box. An 8“ woofer utilizing the space below the floor that is dead space would be ideal.

Have to wait and see if anyone takes either on.
 
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Fits fine over the big front brakes.

About 3/16" between the face of the caliper and the inside surface of the wheel spokes, and maybe 3/8" or more between the caliper and the inside of the rim/barrel.

The Toyota rim I used was from a Rav4 Prime, and originally had a tall 165/90-18 tire on it. It was marked 18x4T 10. (I assume 10 is the offset.)

It looks like that size spare is used on other Toyotas, but I'm not sure if those other cars use the same wheel.

Seems like the easiest and safest thing to do is buy one of the aftermarket kits that include everything and have been tested to fit on the car.
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#20 ·
Getting there. I think the jack, lugwrench, etc., will all fit in a padded bag under the tire.

In the front, the top of the tire is actually a bit lower than the foam, I'll add a wood spacer to raise the tire so it supports the flimsy black cover panel.

Will add a tie-down strap and probably finish up tomorrow- will add more details then.
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Getting there. I think the jack, lugwrench, etc., will all fit in a padded bag under the tire.

In the front, the top of the tire is actually a bit lower than the foam, I'll add a wood spacer to raise the tire so it supports the flimsy black cover panel.

Will add a tie-down strap and probably finish up tomorrow- will add more details then.
Hey Toyota? Do I have your attention? See what this man is doing? That’s how the car should come from the factory. Donut carved into the foam with essential tools to deal with a busted or blown tire, or a damaged wheel.

This no spare fad is infuriating.
 
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Hey, I warned you!

The Maserati collapsible spare is the easiest solution, and works great. I was glad I had it on my recent trip to NC and back.
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#25 · (Edited)
OK, finished!

Here’s the 1" foam I used in a couple spots to lift the tire (I'm sure this type of foam is available from other sources, too.) Rockler Foam Organizer Sheet

I used this tie down strap from Amazon. Amazon.com

This is the round bag I'm planning to use to hold the tools under the wheel. Amazon.com

Here's a video of the finished installation with more details.

Edit: Watch this video, but then also see a few updates in post #43.

 
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OK, finished!

Here’s the 1" foam I used in a couple spots to lift the tire (I'm sure this type of foam is available from other sources, too.) Rockler Foam Organizer Sheet

I used this tie down strap from Amazon. Amazon.com

This is the round bag I'm planning to use to hold the tools under the wheel. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B088NHLWW6

Here's a video of the finished installation with more details.

Really like the cutout design for the spare tire. However I have one question. What happens if you take the car for service one day and a nosy technician decides to take a peek under the trunk floor? Can they void the car’s warranty for this sort of modification? Does Toyota care if you cut the foam that holds the tire repair kit? If so, then I would rather leave the spare on the trunk floor and have it held in place with the child seat hitch on the left and middle seat with a tow hook.
 
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I think the spokes stick out a bit, but I’ll try that today. Would probably also need to add a rigid panel on top of the “bowl” to support the flimsy trunk panel.

Also found this larger bag, probably will be a better fit.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DDPFFF1
 
#33 ·
OK, I did the thread on using the collapsible spare tire from a Maserati, which works fine, but doesn't fit well in the trunk, and is better stored behind one of the front seats.


Longer term, I wanted to use a donut spare that would fit in the trunk. I've bought one, and it seems to fit. Here are the details.

For the wheel, I ended up using an 18" spare wheel from a Rav4 Prime. Of course, the Rav4 tire is too tall, so I replaced it with a 135/70-18 Yokohama- that size is virtually the same height as the GR normal tires.

(Edit: For one-stop-shopping for complete kits that include a spare wheel, tire, jack and lugwrench, see post #2 for two suppliers of complete spare tire kits.)

Seems like the tire fits fine where the foam is now. It's about the same height.

I'll have to build some structure to hold it in place and secure the jack, air pump, and lugwrench, etc.
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Clever ingenious way to store the tire....
 
#35 ·
Good news- the tire fits with the spokes down as @Snowman suggested- and with the larger round bag I've ordered I think even the jack will pack up and fit in the wheel center.

I'll post details in a day or two.