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I've ordered the Endless Super Street M-Sports Plus from Black HawkJapan a week ago and received an email today that states that they are order-made, and that it will take 1.5 months to manufacture them.

Did anyone else received something similar from Black Hawk Japan?
I got the same info. I ended up getting the ISWEEP brake pads for now and there is zero dust with no noticeable loss of performance street driving. I'll pick up the Endless next time..
 
Those still looking into Endless, I just threw on some MX72 pads a few weeks ago to prep the GRC for Laguna track days this summer; here's some initial thoughts after break-in:

Moderate increase in performance over OEM. Noticeably more progressive, no weird initial "bite" like you would get with the stock pads. Stopping power is strong even when cold; easier to modulate than OEM when you really start digging in. Dust levels seem comparable to the stock pads as far as I can tell, so for those concerned more about clean rims than performance - there are better options that will compromise between braking performance/dust. I'll just wash my car.

Additionally - I was pleasantly surprised by how quiet the pads are, definitely had more squeaks going on w/ the OEM set. Would recommend for those splitting their time between dailying and occasional track days. Or if you're looking for something a bit more aggressive than stock and wanna feel more WRC by running Endless pads on your car 😉

Hope this info helps out!
 
Those still looking into Endless, I just threw on some MX72 pads a few weeks ago to prep the GRC for Laguna track days this summer; here's some initial thoughts after break-in:

Moderate increase in performance over OEM. Noticeably more progressive, no weird initial "bite" like you would get with the stock pads. Stopping power is strong even when cold; easier to modulate than OEM when you really start digging in. Dust levels seem comparable to the stock pads as far as I can tell, so for those concerned more about clean rims than performance - there are better options that will compromise between braking performance/dust. I'll just wash my car.

Additionally - I was pleasantly surprised by how quiet the pads are, definitely had more squeaks going on w/ the OEM set. Would recommend for those splitting their time between dailying and occasional track days. Or if you're looking for something a bit more aggressive than stock and wanna feel more WRC by running Endless pads on your car 😉

Hope this info helps out!
A bit disappointed to hear about the dusting, but it is what it is. I already got a set.
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Looking forward to another report on dust levels. I bought EBC Yellow stuff and the pads are decent and dust is lower I believe, but still pretty bad.
I've had the SSM Plus on my car for a few hundred miles now, and I can definitely say the dust is substantially less than OEM. The OEMs were just so unbelievably bad about dust. This is a huge improvement. Stopping power is still excellent in my opinion.
 
Wanted to be sure about lower dust levels, the company responded with this,


Ahmed (Black Hawk Japan)
Jun 2, 2024, 10:15 GMT+9

Hi!

Thank you very much for contacting us.
SSM series from Endless are low dust break pads for street use.

Best regards,
BlackHawkJapan Team
 
With a few hundred miles on mine now, I can say with great confidence that the ordinary road dust is now worse than the brake dust. Totally worth the time and money to install these pads. Stopping power is not compromised at all. I can't speak to how they'd stand up to the extreme heat of track duty, but for hard road use, they're excellent.
 
Just installed EBC Yellow stuff pads yesterday. Some dust evident following bed-in procedures, but much lower than OEM. Jury is still out on brake feel, because I changed from snow tires to 200 treadwear Summer tires.
I ran EBC Yellows on my FiST with the Whoosh Calipers . Of course now it was Wilwoods with Wilwood pads.
I was wondering if they made Yellows for the GRC . Probably less money than Endless. Endless has always been exorbitantly expensive . I am sure it’s better now due to the dollar to Yen . Though EBC’s have always been really reasonably priced.
 
I ran EBC Yellows on my FiST with the Whoosh Calipers . Of course now it was Wilwoods with Wilwood pads.
I was wondering if they made Yellows for the GRC . Probably less money than Endless. Endless has always been exorbitantly expensive . I am sure it’s better now due to the dollar to Yen . Though EBC’s have always been really reasonably priced.
I think I paid around $260 for the Yellow Stuff pads. The Endless are about the same price IF you buy from BlackHawkJapan.
 
I think I paid around $260 for the Yellow Stuff pads. The Endless are about the same price IF you buy from BlackHawkJapan.
BlackHawkJapan is the place to go. US distributors are price gouging for absolutely no reason.
 
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