Which part number are you all ordering? Looks like there is a RS, RC, and RZ. What’s the difference?

 

someone posted this link earlier in the post. That's what I ordered.
ENDLESS SSM PLUS BRAKE PAD FRONT REAR SET FOR TOYOTA GR YARIS GXPA16 (RC WITH 18 INCH WHEELS) GR COROLLA GZEA14H EP558-EP559-SSM-PLUS

 

I ordered Endless MX72 pads today and was told the same thing about lead time. But at half the price of other vendors, I'm not complaining.

 

Just installed EBC Yellow stuff pads yesterday. Some dust evident following bed-in procedures, but much lower than OEM. Jury is still out on brake feel, because I changed from snow tires to 200 treadwear Summer tires.

 

I ran EBC Yellows on my FiST with the Whoosh Calipers . Of course now it was Wilwoods with Wilwood pads.
I was wondering if they made Yellows for the GRC . Probably less money than Endless. Endless has always been exorbitantly expensive . I am sure it’s better now due to the dollar to Yen . Though EBC’s have always been really reasonably priced.

 

Mine was placed on 4/22?!

 

Same here and mine arrived today.

 

Hmm. Gonna have to retract my post above with 3-10 day shipping I was originally quoted.

They emailed me today and said 6-8 weeks. Wanted to know if I wanted to cancel my order. I told them to proceed with my order.

 

Hmm. Gonna have to retract my post above with 3-10 day shipping I was originally quoted.

They emailed me today and said 6-8 weeks. Wanted to know if I wanted to cancel my order. I told them to proceed with my order.

+1. I just ordered and got the exact same result. I'm hoping it'll arrive sooner, and that they're just trying to under promise and over deliver.

 

I've ordered the Endless Super Street M-Sports Plus from Black HawkJapan a week ago and received an email today that states that they are order-made, and that it will take 1.5 months to manufacture them.

Did anyone else received something similar from Black Hawk Japan?

 

I got the same info. I ended up getting the ISWEEP brake pads for now and there is zero dust with no noticeable loss of performance street driving. I'll pick up the Endless next time..

 

Seeing as I have Apex wheels in Race silver coming, I guess I should look hard at low dust pads with OEM bite/feel. Still miffed at the price of brake pads in general.....

 

Just order from Blackhawkjapan.com. Due to the favorable Yen to USD exchange rate, quality brake pads are attractively priced when ordering from them vs US distributors.

 

Gazooing...at 50 miles they look very clean compared to my rims at 5 miles...At what miles do they start to show dust ?

 

I've driven over 150 miles on these and haven't washed the rims. Still waiting for it to be "dirty". There's certainly like normal dust from the pollution / water splashing on it maybe, but just no caking dust like before. Will report back though if I wait it out until it does...

 

I'm between MX72 and MX72+. Would like to hear about the dust on those.

 

Was going to do those, but know those dust up for sure. More performance as well. But don't cake up like OEMs.

 

+1 on Endless SSM+, same as oem performance for heavy canyon use. This is a pic of the front wheel after 50+ miles of hard canyon driving. Virtually dustless.

 

Good to know! I ended up ordering the ISWEEP 1500, because the Endless pads were a few months out. I'll probably get some Endless SSM+ or MX72 down the road though.

 

I’ve been running the Endless for a few months. Stops just as good as stock and WAY less brake dust. Little pricey, but I’m happy with them.

 

the ACRE are 0.75mm thick, about .031"

 

Your numbers are a little off there. 3/4 of a millimeter is not .031", it's only 0.0295. One or the other might be correct, but not both.

 

I expect my air nibbler on a 3d print template. What gauge are other pads using?

 

I’ve got access to bucket loads ti40, 70, 6al4v etc in various gauges. Are the shims flat or with simple forming, or is a form tool required?

 

No forming, they're dead flat. Do you need dimensions or are you just going to trace a pad onto the flat stock?

 

Mine are showing up today, hope I can find some time to install them and do an oil change this weekend.

 

Heard good things about how little dust the Endless SSM PLUS pads produce. Supposedly performance is comparable to stock pads as well. Labeled a "spirited" street pad.
Hopefully will slap them on this weekend and do a dust comparison vs the stock pads and if there is a noticeable difference (positive or negative) in braking performance compared to the stock pads as well. The titanium shims were a bit of an impulse buy. 🤷🏻

 

How is this setup still doing for you? I was between the SSM+ and the MX72 pads.. I went with the SSM+. I'm sure either will be better than stock pads with Endless quality...

 

OEM shims are probably physically compatible if the pad shape is the same but I presume they're made of steel. Titanium on the other hand is a poor heat conductor and will help prevent hot pads from transferring heat into the pistons.

 

That's interesting. Thanks for the reply!

 

Just ordered some Endless SSM plus pads and ACRE titanium brake shims to hopefully significantly reduce brake dust while not sacrificing much performance. Both front and rears is only $211 if ordered from Blackhawk Japan. Shipping to the states was an additional $64. They also sell the ACRE titanium GRY brake shims for $113, which is a bit pricey, but doesnt add much weight when shipped with the Endless brake pads and only added $2 to the shipping. So total shipping for the pads and shims was $66.

The price of the Endless pads even with the $65 shipping charges at $276 is a damn good deal though. If i were to order just the ACRE shims it would have been $113 + $18 for shipping, or if i were to order the other shims from lamspeed, it rould have been $80+$55 for shipping, so basically about $130 USD shipped for either set.

Really only worth getting the shims on Blackhawk if you order some pads as well to save on shipping.

Based on reviews ive read, the dust for the SSM plus pads is significantly reduced from stock on other makes and models.

This is the description (from the Endless website) along with ratings of initial braking, less dust, less noise, feel of pedal, abrasion resistance, and contrallability. These pads graded best in less dust, abrasion resistance, and controllability. Not listed as a track pad, but listed as a street pad for streetuse and windy roads (which is where i will be doing most of the driving anyways). Probably fine to use for occasional track use. Ill do some performance comparisons (along with dust producing conparisons) with the stock pads (as those seem to be fine for occasional track use).

If I feel as performance did not suffer from the brake pad switch, then ill use these for the occasional track days. But if I feel performance was sacrificed for less dust when compared to the stock pads, ill simply just swap back out to stock pads when going to the track.

ENDLESS OFFICIAL WEB SITE

 

Are the OEM shims not compatible?

 

We are big proponents of ceramic coating the wheels especially when generating lots of brake dust. Ceramic coat in conjunction with frequent cleanings will go a long way for keeping the wheels looking nice. Taking off the wheels to clean them will be the most effective. If you cannot remove the wheels try and use a microfiber wheel brush that can reach trough the wheel spokes and get the entire wheel barrel.

If you are willing to swap to a low dust pad we like iSWEEP IS1500. You can check out the thread below for more info.

https://www.grcorollaforum.com/threads/isweep-is1500-series-brake-pad-for-the-grc.3523/#post-92192

 

Not sure if any of you have tried this option for reducing dust yet. We have a batch coming from japan in 6-8 weeks. If you would like a set to try, give it an order at the link below! There's special pricing of $555 for both front and rear pads currently.

Endless GR Corolla Super Street M-Sports PLUS Brake Pads (Minimal Brake Dust)
The SS-M PLUS is produced specifically for the everyday street driver with balanced performance, increased life, low noise level and high levels of brake feel without the typical high levels of dust. From sports cars to high class sedans, SS-M PLUS fulfills the needs of a wide range of users. If you need a high performance street compound with low dust as the priority SS-M PLUS is for you!

Available here:
Endless GR Corolla Super Street M-Sports PLUS Brake Pads (Minimal Brak

 

Not sure if any of you have tried this option for reducing dust yet. We have a batch coming from japan in 6-8 weeks. If you would like a set to try, give it an order at the link below! There's special pricing of $555 for both front and rear pads currently.

Endless GR Corolla Super Street M-Sports PLUS Brake Pads (Minimal Brake Dust)
The SS-M PLUS is produced specifically for the everyday street driver with balanced performance, increased life, low noise level and high levels of brake feel without the typical high levels of dust. From sports cars to high class sedans, SS-M PLUS fulfills the needs of a wide range of users. If you need a high performance street compound with low dust as the priority SS-M PLUS is for you!

Available here:
Endless GR Corolla Super Street M-Sports PLUS Brake Pads (Minimal Brak

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Has that batch arrived or are they all gone already?

 

Has anyone purchased the Porterfield R4-S’s yet? I’m about to pull the trigger. I will not be tracking the car.

 

Ebc blue stuff did amazing at barbers hardly any fade while braking as late as possible. Also way less dust highly recommend.

 

now we just need one of these grc specific shops in the US to start stocking them for us

 

I had talked to hawk I few months ago they said end of summer at the earliest

 

I recently got an email from them and they said by the end of the year

 

Spoke to Powerstop, got this response:

At this time my product manager does not have an ETA on the brake pads. They are in the process of developing already so maybe by the end of the year we should have them.

Thank you,
Pedro Galvez

 

I see Carbotech offers 1521 compound pads for GRC. Over $400 for both axles. I mention because I have a set of these on my 86 and they literally don't dust at all.

Unfortunately they squeal when they get hot. Sometimes even just warm. Lots of people swear by them so I'd love to hear how they do for people with GRC. I'm not a big fan of the very gentle initial bite but otherwise very linear modulation. They seem not to wear the rotor almost at all and both will last approximately infinity miles they way it's looking. I guess all energy is turning into heat and.. sound.

I am also a big fan of Akebono OEM pad material. I think GRC's dusts a lot because there is a ton of pad area compared to typical applications of this material. If I could find pads with this compound to fit my 86's calipers I'd buy a set in a heartbeat. Dust be damned.