I can also report that my brake dust has considerably (maybe by a factor of 10) reduced by going to Endless SSM plus pads. The factory pads had more dust than the race pad on my other car. I have not noticed any reduced braking power either (strictly daily driven car).

 

Agreed! This was my biggest frustration with the vehicle when I first got it and ever since I got these installed, I haven't even bothered to check this forum anymore. My prayers have been answered.

 

After a week and a half, Im convinced these pads are a must for anyone with light colored wheels.

At this point I perceive no difference in braking, and the brake dust is cut down so much.

This is after a week and a half, including a couple of days where I drove in the rain. With the stock pads the wheels would look horrible after 4 or 5 days.

Definitely recommend the Endless SSM plus pads.

 

For those with the endless ss m-plus, did the front pads all look the same?

The stock inner pads have like wings at the bottom.

They fit without a problem, just checking.

 

For those with the endless ss m-plus, did the front pads all look the same?

The stock inner pads have like wings at the bottom.

They fit without a problem, just checking.

Those chamfers are to help reduce squealing by preventing brake dust buildup on the leading edge. Different manufacturers have different methods (angles, placement, etc) as you can see, but its all for the same purpose. They don't affect the braking performance at all.

edit- or if you're talking about the notch on the backing plate, I don't think it affects anything, maybe just a manufacturing step to attach a wear indicator. I'm pretty sure that area of the backing plate doesn't even interact with anything, it just hangs there.

 

I ordered the SSM+ pads 11/25 and they sent me an email with about a 90 day waiting period i said cool no problem. They showed up today vis UPS. 7 days and the arrived. I will be putting them on tomorrow

 

Mine took more than 30 days, but they were worth the wait. I was tired of that much dust on my daily car. They actually made more dust than the race pads on my other car.

 

Just installed Endless SSM+ pads and cleaned the wheels. I'll see how much dust I get compared to the stock pads in the next few weeks.

Also, I know Japan was known for their excessive wrapping/packaging, but I really can't complain...they really took care to make sure everything was protected, down to the individual pads.

 

You wont regret it, my wheels look so much better now. I get more road dirt/ grime on em than brake dust now.

 

The OEM pads are so soft - I can’t imagine you’d need to turn the rotors. Unless the rotor is visibly gouged you are fine.

 

That's a drastic difference. Thanks for the interval pics.

 

Brake dust situation on MX72 pads after 450 miles without washing. No rain.

 

200 mile Endless MX72 update. I'd say still relatively clean with some dust starting to build. I'm pretty happy with this pad. No loss in performance over stock.

 

Update on Endless MX72 brake dust after I washed the car last week. No rain. This is after 100 miles of mostly city driving. You can tell what dust used to be like on the inner barrel. Important to note that my wheels are ceramic coated.

 

Mine only gets dirty if it rains. But I clean door jamb every car wash.

 

Now that we're getting a handle on which pads can minimize brake dust/retain performance, can we start a "Door Jamb Dust" thread and see what can be done there .

I washed my car yesterday and I swear the door jambs were about as bad as the brake dust on the wheels. Somehow much dirtier than the a-surfaces of the body.

 

My door jams and rocker areas are embarassingly filthy after all the dust and rain.

 

About 500 miles on Endless MX72 pads (a more track oriented pad but not full track pad), and the dusting is definitely better than stock pads. The pads do still dust, but at a much reduced rate. I'd say they have a third of the dust stock pads do. If you wash your car twice a month, I'd say this is pretty acceptable.

Here's a picture of how they look. It's also been raining, so it looks worse on the wheel than it actually is. Note how much is on the caliper. I think most of this would wash off easily.

 

Mine arrived today. Doubt I’ll get them insta before next week…..

 

You'll be glad when you do. The difference in dust is astonishing.

 

Ordered myself a set of SSM Plus pads from Black Hawk Japan on 5/31 shipped on 6/22 and received them today 6/24. Was supposed to get them yesterday but my UPS guy only delivered the packages with my business name as the receiver and not the one with my name. Really surprised how quickly they got here, I did not ask for any kind of express shipping so that was nice. They quoted me about 1 month for manufacturing and then shipping after that. Got here in less than 30 days so definitely on the faster side of the estimate. Pads were $204 shipping was $94 and "UPS Saver" was the option selected and for about $300 I'm happy considering stateside dealers are $500-$600. Will hopefully get these installed in the next month or so, have a new set of wheels that need mounting and balancing and will probably have it all done at the same time.

 

I put on a set of the SSM plus. My initial impression was that the didn’t quite have the feel that the stock pads had. These are a bit more wooden feeling.

Much less dust.

Performance? I honestly haven’t used them in that way. Probably only 250 miles on them so far.

 

I put on a set of the SSM plus. My initial impression was that the didn’t quite have the feel that the stock pads had. These are a bit more wooden feeling.

Much less dust.

Performance? I honest haven’t used them in that way. Probably only 250 miles on them so far.

I'll take the much less dust, and swap out as needed for any autocross events. Plus dust on silver wheels is much more annoying than dust on black wheels.....

 

Looks like pads will take about a month, which is ok because I’m busy with honey do tasks…..

 

Loving that exchange rate right now.

 

With a few hundred miles on mine now, I can say with great confidence that the ordinary road dust is now worse than the brake dust. Totally worth the time and money to install these pads. Stopping power is not compromised at all. I can't speak to how they'd stand up to the extreme heat of track duty, but for hard road use, they're excellent.

 

Did you have to get your rotors resurfaced or did you just replace the pads alone with no issues?

 

Wanted to be sure about lower dust levels, the company responded with this,


Ahmed (Black Hawk Japan)
Jun 2, 2024, 10:15 GMT+9

Hi!

Thank you very much for contacting us.
SSM series from Endless are low dust break pads for street use.

Best regards,
BlackHawkJapan Team

 

Looking forward to another report on dust levels. I bought EBC Yellow stuff and the pads are decent and dust is lower I believe, but still pretty bad.

 

I've had the SSM Plus on my car for a few hundred miles now, and I can definitely say the dust is substantially less than OEM. The OEMs were just so unbelievably bad about dust. This is a huge improvement. Stopping power is still excellent in my opinion.

 

Those still looking into Endless, I just threw on some MX72 pads a few weeks ago to prep the GRC for Laguna track days this summer; here's some initial thoughts after break-in:

Moderate increase in performance over OEM. Noticeably more progressive, no weird initial "bite" like you would get with the stock pads. Stopping power is strong even when cold; easier to modulate than OEM when you really start digging in. Dust levels seem comparable to the stock pads as far as I can tell, so for those concerned more about clean rims than performance - there are better options that will compromise between braking performance/dust. I'll just wash my car.

Additionally - I was pleasantly surprised by how quiet the pads are, definitely had more squeaks going on w/ the OEM set. Would recommend for those splitting their time between dailying and occasional track days. Or if you're looking for something a bit more aggressive than stock and wanna feel more WRC by running Endless pads on your car 😉

Hope this info helps out!

 

Aren’t the OEM Akebonos pretty similar to the MX72/72+ ? My understanding is that they are solid, performance pad. Not sure if it’s semi-metallic, sintered, ceramic

 

Yep. Same here. Certainly I'd like to support the local small business owner, but not when he's more than double the price of buying online. That's a substantial amount of money.

 

Agreed! No reason not to place an order for that price. Only 700 miles on my brakes and I’m already tired of the brake dust.

Order placed! 👍🏻

 

$206 USD / $280 CAD for a set of front and rear? How is it so cheap?