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#81 ·
jzander said:
Thanks for the response, appreciated.
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I wanted the 215/50r17 too, I ended up with the Fast Wheels Switch 17x7.5 as posted by @dixxon .
The only issue was that that particular wheel was available with Mag Lug bolt holes (OE Toyota lugs fit) and also available with Conical taper bolt holes (like many other aftermarket wheels). I ended up with the Conical lug seat version, since at the time I didn't know any better. I just finished swapping out my wheel studs which were too short for the Switch wheel. Extended Wheel Studs - An overview
 
#82 ·
daverup said:
I wanted the 215/50r17 too, I ended up with the Fast Wheels Switch 17x7.5 as posted by @dixxon .
The only issue was that that particular wheel was available with Mag Lug bolt holes (OE Toyota lugs fit) and also available with Conical taper bolt holes (like many other aftermarket wheels). I ended up with the Conical lug seat version, since at the time I didn't know any better. I just finished swapping out my wheel studs which were too short for the Switch wheel. Extended Wheel Studs - An overview
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Just purchased 18s, Enkei PX-10 (18x8 +35mm offset) with the standard tire size. I prefer to drop down and get a narrow tire, couldn't find an option I would have been happy with.
 
#86 · (Edited)
420yoloswag69 said:
Same 35mm offset though?
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Yes, same 35mm offset.
I am aware of the minimal clearance. I asked @dixxon how his were running after a couple of months. He said that he hadn't had any problems.
My interest was in 17x7.5 and there didn't seem to be many options.
The only difference other than the lug seats was the center bore. Mine are larger and needed centering ring inserts. I've had to do that on many cars.
 
#88 ·
I just saw this, thought it was interesting, and confirmed what I have noticed going from one size to another. Probably even more convincing after a bad pothole!

They don’t get too technical, but it isn’t hard to imagine how the diminishing slip angles are going to be different and affect the braking into corners.

grassrootsmotorsports.com

Do Larger Wheels and Tires Really Make You Faster?

We test plus sized wheels with low profile tires to see which combination offers the best performance and comfort.
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yeah, those articles have been ruining wheel discussions for decades.

in every test (even when they say they are 'removing variables') they go with a wider tire, as well as going plus size.

in every single test, in addition to plus sizing the wheel, they add more contact patch for grip, so really, these tests are actually testing the ability of going with a wider tire.

I would submit that every ounce of better performance was gained by going with a wider tire, rather than having a taller wheelset.

had they kept the same width of tire, while going with a plus sized wheel they would have seen no gains, and possibly even losses.
 
#91 ·
Just FYI even if 17" fits and has decent clearance, once you go into snow/dirt there's a very high chance stuff gets caked inside the barrel of the wheel and ends up eroding the paint on your caliper. I assume most people are trying to put 17" tires for snow/rough roads/daily purposes and it's exactly the conditions where you have a chance of eroding the paint. This is exactly what I thought with my previous car and the calipers got some cosmetic damage.

One would need to make a wheel scraper to run it safely. That also comes with additional risks (namely, trapping rocks and creating a bigger problem)
 
#92 · (Edited)
hatsunearu said:
Just FYI even if 17" fits and has decent clearance, once you go into snow/dirt there's a very high chance stuff gets caked inside the barrel of the wheel and ends up eroding the paint on your caliper. I assume most people are trying to put 17" tires for snow/rough roads/daily purposes and it's exactly the conditions where you have a chance of eroding the paint. This is exactly what I thought with my previous car and the calipers got some cosmetic damage.

One would need to make a wheel scraper to run it safely. That also comes with additional risks (namely, trapping rocks and creating a bigger problem)
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Thanks for the heads up. Ran -1" wheels with minimal clearance on my GTI and Golf R without issue for multiple years in the Midwest winter mix.

Obviously not all brands, wheels, offsets, etc. fit the same. Luckily the Yaris folks did a lot of the legwork for us (Yaris image, not my GRC)

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#93 ·
86Zed said:
Thanks for the heads up. Ran -1" wheels with minimal clearance on my GTI and Golf R without issue for multiple years in the Midwest winter mix.

Obviously not all braids, wheels, offsets, etc. fit the same. Luckily the Yaris folks did a lot of the legwork for us (Yaris image, not my GRC)

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This is about the amount of clearance I got on my Focus with my winter wheels. Definitely would keep an eye out if you go into snow/dirt for sure.
The Yaris folks recommend running wheel scrapers (though nobody makes a kit for it which sucks)
 
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