HNNNNNG okay Im in for one

 

How does this compare to the RacerX mount? I think you made a comment on FB about it but I forgot what you said there.

 

I would rather not comment on a public forum anything negative about another companies product but if you would like for me to answer the question in a DM I’ll be happy to give my opinion.

 

im interested, but i'd like to know how involved the install would be and how the 60A would be for daily driving. i saw on a video after someone installed a cusco one that it added a lot of steering wheel vibrations, is that something noticeable on the softest version?

 

Install can be done with a basic tool set and about 30 minutes with manual tools or 15-20 with electric or air tools. It just consists of jacking up the front of the vehicle, removing underbody panels, and removing 6 bolts total.

60A will produce very minimal vibrations. You won’t have any steering wheel shake or mirror distortion. I’d be willing to back it with a full return refund if you don’t love it

 

I'm in. Sent you a DM on facebook, as well.

 

Looks good! Sorry, but got you confused with the racer X products.

 

Are these not the exact same as the racer X ones? Even the Pedal spacer you are advertising is the exact same one. Not to mention both are using "X" in the name...
Things that make you go hmmm... 🤔

racer X doesnt even offer a pedal spacer what crack are you smoking
CUSCO also offers a pitch mount and i dont see you saying anything there.

 

This looks great! Can’t wait to get mine. Almost positive I already ripped my pitch mount as well. I remember replacing this mount on my rs and loved the difference it made. Also I really like that it uses the oe hardware

 

Looking forward to this, thank you!

Weak motor mount was an issue in my RS3 for sure.

Thanks for making a quality product instead of giving in to the temptation of making a quick buck with an inferior product.

 

Thanks for the feedback. Not to boast but I have a well paying 9-5 so I’m not in it for the money. Every dollar in profit made off the pedal spacer went into making this pitch mount and the extra from this will go into more tools and material for the next.

I only want the best for my weekend warrior and I want to share that with the community. 👊😎

 

Received today, hopefully installing tomorrow. Looks and feels very high quality and @CHEEKY GR-E210 was great to work with and makes sure everything is right

 

Looking forward to hearing your impressions. Didn’t know improving this linkage was a thing until the RS3. Very noticeable how the weak OEM bushings/linkage would flex & the engine would rock with hard DSG shifts under load. New linkage/bushings firmed things up nicely. Hoping this does the same.

 

Got it installed and test drove. Now this isn’t a true impression of this mount because Jeff apparently had an issue with the bushing manufacturer and he said there will be increased NVH. And there definitely is more vibration than I would like at this point, pretty much only at idle. Currently running the red 60a bushing.(or whatever it is due to being messed up lol) Of course he is making this right and sending the correct bushings when they are ready. But my oh my does shifting feel waaaay better. In my picture you can see my OE mount is ripped and was very noticeable. Taking off feels smoother, less clunky and shifting is solid. Install was super easy and fit is perfect. Pretty sure there is a break in period, from the time I left work and got home there was already a decrease in the NVH. Excited for the new bushings for this to be perfect.

 

How many miles were on the stock mount? Shocking the condition of it when you pulled it.

 

@CHEEKY GR-E210 I sent you a DM; I definitely want to pick up an 80A mount. Excited to let people know how much it tightens the car up.

 

@spartans86 Thanks for the feedback! I’m glad to know that you are enjoying the benefits so far
👊😎

The bushing durometer’s are spot on as shown in the pictures on the original post. The issue is the bushing sleeve. I sent 2 cad files to my machine shop throughout the development and they ended up producing the wrong ones -.-

The surface area of the insert you are using right now is too large and it is crushing too much of the bushing which in turn absorbs a fair amount of flex…therefore making the bushing harder than it should be. That’s why you notice increased NVH at this time.

The correct versions are being produced now and will go out to all of the past, current and future orders on October 22nd, after I return from my out of country vacation.

So everyone is aware I did inform Spartan of this issue before sending it out to him. Just a little FYI Spartan, the 70A is not affected as much as the 60A with the bushing insert since it is already a harder bushing, so if the idle NVH is bugging you too much for the next 3 weeks (until I send you the correct insert) would recommend swapping to the 70A. The frequency of NVH will increase but the harshness will be less if that makes sense.

 

@spartans86 Thanks for the feedback! I’m glad to know that you are enjoying the benefits so far
👊😎

The bushing durometer’s are spot on as shown in the pictures on the original post. The issue is the bushing insert. I sent 2 cad files to my machine shop throughout the development and they ended up producing the wrong ones -.-

The surface area of the insert you are using right now is too large and it is crushing too much of the bushing which in turn absorbs a fair amount of flex…therefore making the bushing harder than it should be. That’s why you notice increased NVH at this time.

The correct versions are being produced now and will go out to all of the past, current and future orders on October 22nd, after I return from my out of country vacation.

So everyone is aware I did inform Spartan of this issue before sending it out to him. Just a little FYI Spartan, the 70A is not affected as much as the 60A with the bushing insert since it is already a harder bushing, so if the idle NVH is bugging you too much for the next 3 weeks (until I send you the correct insert) would recommend swapping to the 70A. The frequency of NVH will increase but the harshness will be less if that makes sense.

Ohhh ok I misunderstood but that makes perfect sense!

 

I just got back from my vacation yesterday so today I will be picking up the revised/correct bushing sleeves. All back ordered/pre-purchased mounts will be shipping in the next few days as early as tomorrow. Installation will range from 15-30 minutes once the front is of the ground depending on if hand tools or power tools being used. It will take the same amount of time to swap out the bushings to a different duro.

 

Sounds good, please let me know if there is stock available to order and how to order!

 

Replied brother.

 

Update: After installing the proper bushing mount it is perfect. Super happy with it. Feels great and the added vibrations are very minor, my wife doesn’t even notice any difference from stock. But driving and shifting are greatly improved. Thanks again!

 

Thanks for chiming in! You are a tough cookie to have endured the set up with the previous bushing sleeve 😅 I’m glad to hear you are happy with it now and that you feel the pros do out weigh the con of the added NVH. Sadly there is almost always a Trade-off when adding a performance part.

I have less than 10 remaining in this batch if anyone else is interested 👊😎

 

I installed mine today and I am very happy with it.
One thing I didnt like about this car was the awkward clutch pedal work that had to be done to get the car moving from a stop and then also the challenge shifting smoothly into 2nd gear in anything but an aggressive acceleration. The pitch mount alleviated all of this. It shifts smoother, and i dont have this issue anymore. In shifting does feel a little better as well, especially down shifting. I have only put about 30 miles on it, but I am very happy so far. The NVH is a little noticeable BUT only at idle and I know it will dissipate as I have installed many stiffer motor and tranny mounts in my past cars and usually within a couple hundred miles it reduces noticeably. The install was easy, the instructions straight forward and very helpful, love that the torque specs are included for every bolt. I seem to have a collection of DeltaX parts building. Looking forward to the next great product. Now I just need to figure out the occasional grind going into 2nd gear when accelerating hard from a dead stop and shifting fast when turning onto a busy road. It doesnt happen all the time, but seems with the side loads of a sharp turn, and 1st gear accel the tranny moves enough that the shifter alignment and possibly some effect on the clutch/pedal throw has caused a grind. I will just lay off that and shift slower but not something i have experience on my other sporty cars.

Ps I wrote on the bushings in paint pen.

 

You didn’t waste any time! Thanks for the update and the initial review. If you are still experiencing the grind while corning it might be worth a try moving up in Duro to keep it a little more flat or possibly give the solid shifter bushings a try. I may have a batch made on the next batch of pitch mounts since they are a very simple design but a few companies have already released some. Maybe worth looking into in your case.

One thing I failed to mention to everyone is the poly bushings will require a break in period to get settled. I don’t have an exact number but from similar products a few hundred miles up to even 500 miles seems to be the norm. I’d really like to hear everyone’s feedback once you achieve those numbers as I have one customer that seems to be having more NVH than most upon initial install that I’m monitoring closely.

 

Between those 2 designs I would choose the spherical because it could offer an advantage of increased smoothness and articulation but while not being a sealed design will have the trade-off of needing maintenance.

 

Yeah i was leaning towards the sphericals too. I'll put it on the list

 

I agree with @CHEEKY GR-E210.
I have the Racer X Fabrication bushings and they are perfect.

 

Good to know, thx for that additional input.
I know the one kit has solid bushing mounts for the shifter base itself. Any thoughts on that? Curious how much that might actually help or if it would transmit more vibrations than it's worth.

 

INSTALLATION UPDATE

It was brought to my attention from a 13 Year Toyota Master-Tech that as per the Toyota Datum the 14mm bolts that attaches the bracket to the Transaxle in Step 5 must be tightened in sequence to ensure alignment to the design specifications. I have attached a .jpeg of the updated instructions. Also added is the approximate bushing break-in milage for to the NVH to settle of 500 miles. The new instructions will be sent along with any new orders after today and I will also be sending them via DP/PM to anyone who has already ordered.

 

Good morning guys I installed the pitch mount yesterday at the same time that I installed a power brace and I can say that for anyone that may be on the fence about getting one of these mounts that it looks and feels like good quality stuff and the fact that we can change out the inserts is a plus in my opinion. I can’t speak from a long term review perspective since I just installed it but I went with the 60a and 70a options and the 70a was already inserted in the mount so I just installed it with those to see how it feels and I can say that with the 70a there is a lot of NVH at initial take off. Once I was driving it was better but on every initial take off from 1st and idle there is significant NVH. Jeff told me that there is a 500ish mile break in so I’ll see how it goes and I can always go down to the 60a. Once I hit 500 miles I’ll let you guys know how the 70a feels.

 

Package just arrived! Can't wait to install it. Thanks again for the candy. Actually kinda perfect since it's Halloween

 

Anyone who did this upgrade care to share their experience with 60 vs 70 poly bushing hardness? Trying to make a decision... I don't mind some increased NVH, vibration would be more tolerable than increased noise, IMO.

 

I can’t speak about the 60a but I installed the 70a since they were already inserted in the mount when I received it. When I first installed it the NVH was very significant. Jeff told me that there was a break in period of 500ish miles so I’m going to give it some time. When your driving it’s fine but when you start moving in 1st from and idle or so there is a lot of NVH. I’ve driver my car about 60-70 miles since I installed it and it gotten a little better. I’m going to give it a few hundred miles and see what happens. I can always go down to the 60a.

 

Although most have not had had the mounts in long enough for total break in I have received a decent amount of feedback from my initial orders to give some added info.

I have found so far that this chassis and the manufacturing process has equated to different amounts of NVH being noticed with the use of the same duro meter bushings across different cars. Some say, myself included, that 70A is not too bad and others have told me that it’s almost unbearable initially. (I’m still waiting for feedback on those that have decided to wait out the break in mileage with the 70A)

It will break in and the amount of NVH will lessen but I’m not sure if those chassis that don’t agree with the resonant frequencies of the 70A will get to a point they are comfortable daily usage. So it’s a bit of a lottery in that sense and time will tell.

One customer who’s chassis did not agree with the 70A to the point he said he didn’t even want to wait for the break in, but once he switch to 60A and completed the break in, now says he feels the NVH matches that of the OEM mount he had in before. I will see if I can get him to chime in so you can hear it from him that way you guys don’t think I’m being biased here.

I have not had one person so far complain about the 60A bushing exhibiting an amount of added NVH that makes it uncomfortable for daily use.

At this point, until more people complete break-ins and give me more feedback I will suggest that anyone who even has a slight concern of additional NVH being introduced to order a 60A bushing. It will still be superior in performance as opposed to the sloppy OEM mount. You will have more confidence shifting up and down, you will have better throttle response and will have a higher sense of connectivity. It does improve even greater as you move up in Duro but at a trade off of more NVH.

Another great option is to just add a 70A/80A bushing set to your order for an additional $20 that way you can swap them in for track days and swap back to the 60A for daily duties afterwards. I’m down to about 15 minutes to swap bushings with ramps, electric impacts and not removing the front most under panel.

Thanks to everyone who has given their initial thoughts! I urge everyone to give their honest opinion good or bad to not only inform those interested but to help me improve the product.

 

I’m going to ride out the 500 miles and let you know what happens.

 

Love the look of this (and the pedal spacer is awesome btw) but am a bit worried by 148 torques…. That would be some serious deflection on my bending bar torque gauge and i’m not so sure I could do that with the car on drive on ramps…. Is it easy to get that torque or do I need to get someone to fit on a hoist? Or do I just need to invest in a ratcheting click torque wrench?

 

I can tell you first hand that getting 148 ft-lbs without a lift is not that easy. It’s not that easy with a lift lol.