Cooled steering wheel? Are you sure about that because I’ve never heard of that in any cargranted I haven't sat in it, or anything, but from an engagement point of view, is it really better? all controls are capacitive touch, meaning no physical buttons, and no feedback, also, the SWC are the same, so if the palm of your hand accidentally hits one of the controls while driving, that would get annoying.
also, the engagement of reverse on the shifter is press down and move the stick left and up. not a huge issue, but apparently (according to YT influencers) the down press on the shifter can happen at any time, so if you are going into 3rd from second, you the shifter might sink under your hand. not a great feeling, I'm sure, but you might get used to that.
I'm sure the heated and cooled steering wheel is great, as are the seats which are heated (and cooled too) I think, also the sunroof sounds cool, if you're into that.
IMO, the Golf R is great to use as a tool in negotiating the price of the GRC (if you can find someone that will commit to a MSRP price for it), but it's going to be a completely different experience from the GRC. more of a grand tourer with annoying buttons, rather than a rough and tumble hot hatch, the dealer doesn't need to know that you may not ultimately be interested in the Golf R, but if you can get a written price, you can use that to help get a lower offer for the GRC. it worked for me at least.
What do you NOT LIKE about your new GRC
And do you plan to just live with these issues or do something to improve them?
No.1 issue for me:
SEATS :
Not enough blustering for a sport/track car. Fast cornering to the right pushes left shoulder against hard pillar plastic. They are too high so I have to set steering wheel to full out and full up to get room for knees not to hit the wheel when shifting or braking.
2 other issues:
Engine is weaker than what reviews had claimed. I knew it would be low on torque but it just does not pull very hard from 2-4K. From seat of pants impression and from trying to merge, it is lacking. Weight and 4WD dont help I guess. Morizo has +20 torque so a proper tune can hopefully add torque down low and more HP.
Brakes have no initial bite. Will try this weekend to bed them in, might help. But will change to DTC-30s before autoX. That should improve brakes instantly.
Annoying but smaller things:
- Rev match off by default and no way to set it (should be addressed with tune)
- Not able to start in sport mode (tune)
- Nav app locked behind a pay wall. Money grab, GPS is built into the car.
- Looks like they glued a tablet to the dash.
Clutch pack heating I knew about, disappointing but should not be an issue for autoX. Track days in high heat maybe. But I am not the fastest guy on track so should be ok.
No.1 issue for me:
SEATS :
Not enough blustering for a sport/track car. Fast cornering to the right pushes left shoulder against hard pillar plastic. They are too high so I have to set steering wheel to full out and full up to get room for knees not to hit the wheel when shifting or braking.
2 other issues:
Engine is weaker than what reviews had claimed. I knew it would be low on torque but it just does not pull very hard from 2-4K. From seat of pants impression and from trying to merge, it is lacking. Weight and 4WD dont help I guess. Morizo has +20 torque so a proper tune can hopefully add torque down low and more HP.
Brakes have no initial bite. Will try this weekend to bed them in, might help. But will change to DTC-30s before autoX. That should improve brakes instantly.
Annoying but smaller things:
- Rev match off by default and no way to set it (should be addressed with tune)
- Not able to start in sport mode (tune)
- Nav app locked behind a pay wall. Money grab, GPS is built into the car.
- Looks like they glued a tablet to the dash.
Clutch pack heating I knew about, disappointing but should not be an issue for autoX. Track days in high heat maybe. But I am not the fastest guy on track so should be ok.
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Cooled steering wheel? Are you sure about that because I’ve never heard of that in any car
@Cptnslo probably the cooled seats. it's been since December since I cared about the Golf R features 
my GRC has it. I point the driver side fan towards the wheelCooled steering wheel? Are you sure about that because I’ve never heard of that in any car
With the Golf R around 80k you will wish you got a GRC. That's usually when a German car starts to cost big money.
No spare tire sucks. I'll be doing @centerpunch 's spare mod.
The rear occupancy sensors and the corresponding buzzer is a pain. My daughter unbuckles her seatbelt and gets her backpack on her shoulders when we are in school dropoff line. If she does this in the Corolla, we get a terrible buzzer. We are literally moving slower than walking speeds.
Otherwise, I love the car.
The rear occupancy sensors and the corresponding buzzer is a pain. My daughter unbuckles her seatbelt and gets her backpack on her shoulders when we are in school dropoff line. If she does this in the Corolla, we get a terrible buzzer. We are literally moving slower than walking speeds.
Otherwise, I love the car.
Get an OBDLink MX+, Carista $9 1 month subscription, and disable seatbelt alerts, alarm gone.No spare tire sucks. I'll be doing @centerpunch 's spare mod.
The rear occupancy sensors and the corresponding buzzer is a pain. My daughter unbuckles her seatbelt and gets her backpack on her shoulders when we are in school dropoff line. If she does this in the Corolla, we get a terrible buzzer. We are literally moving slower than walking speeds.
Otherwise, I love the car.
What else can you do with Carista?Get an OBDLink MX+, Carista $9 1 month subscription, and disable seatbelt alerts, alarm gone.
Unfortunately not much on newer Toyotas. The enhanced features haven’t been updated on anything newer than 2020 for Toyota, but you can still scan codes and disable seat belt alarm and a few other things. I sold my GRC, but Carista allowed me to deactivate the alarm.What else can you do with Carista?
However, it works on all makes and doesn’t marry to a particular vehicle, so you can connect to all your cars, or even friends and coworkers and change some settings while you have subscription.
Or check out the techstream thread, there's a cheap tool from aliexpress and a couple of cracked versions of techstream floating around for you do to it cheaper. I had good luck with disabling that God awful seatbelt alarm.Get an OBDLink MX+, Carista $9 1 month subscription, and disable seatbelt alerts, alarm gone.
Yea, that sound so much easier.Or check out the techstream thread, there's a cheap tool from aliexpress and a couple of cracked versions of techstream floating around for you do to it cheaper. I had good luck with disabling that God awful seatbelt alarm.
You almost have to compare a dozen to a twelve with these 3 since they are built to rival each other very close. Depending on who you ask and what you prefer, are you really pretty much getting the same? That could be up for debate.Does it, though? Aside from maybe the seats, you're almost comparing a dozen to twelve.
At this price point, unless you're buying used, you're getting pretty much the same anywhere you go. You're not really getting anything different until you're paying $55k++
The MSRP for the base Golf R is also $9K higher than the Core.
The exterior of the Golf R look very tame but VW interiors seem to offer a more premium feel compared to Japanese interiors. I don't mind the cheap look of the GRC interior. Toyota uses a different/stronger plastic then Honda.granted I haven't sat in it, or anything, but from an engagement point of view, is it really better? all controls are capacitive touch, meaning no physical buttons, and no feedback, also, the SWC are the same, so if the palm of your hand accidentally hits one of the controls while driving, that would get annoying.
also, the engagement of reverse on the shifter is press down and move the stick left and up. not a huge issue, but apparently (according to YT influencers) the down press on the shifter can happen at any time, so if you are going into 3rd from second, you the shifter might sink under your hand. not a great feeling, I'm sure, but you might get used to that.
I'm sure the heated and cooled steering wheel is great, as are the seats which are heated (and cooled too) I think, also the sunroof sounds cool, if you're into that.
IMO, the Golf R is great to use as a tool in negotiating the price of the GRC (if you can find someone that will commit to a MSRP price for it), but it's going to be a completely different experience from the GRC. more of a grand tourer with annoying buttons, rather than a rough and tumble hot hatch, the dealer doesn't need to know that you may not ultimately be interested in the Golf R, but if you can get a written price, you can use that to help get a lower offer for the GRC. it worked for me at least.
Pretty sure it’s been covered but how tf do I get the car to recognize my user profile and not ask my phone to allow communication? I keep finding myself having to punch in the code otherwise it’s on guest mode. Could it be since the car the was originally set up with my SO’s phone? We used the same log in for the Toyota app. Also started occurring again after I got a new phone when I thought I finally nixed it.
I'm surprised to see so many people having issues with that as I never have. I got setup at the dealership and haven't had to mess with it since. I wonder if you can do a factory reset/wipe on it, then start with just your info.
After almost 1000 miles, here are my initial thoughts. Mostly minor complaints - overall I really like the car and would buy again. For any newcomers reading this don't let this sway you - these are all minor issues.
1. Infotainment setup is not ideal. Profiles seem to work but are a pain to setup and some settings aren't sticky. Icons on the touchscreen are too small and difficult to press while in motion. No Home button to reset UI location. Lots of buried settings and options that are hard to access. Overall, system is functional but not very intuitive.
2. Qi wireless charge works fine on my S22 Ultra with slim case. It is not a fast charger but holds charge and will charge slowly while running Android Auto with Google maps active.
3. Clutch takeup is a bit odd. Initial bite seems low but seems to slip through a lot of pedal travel. Combined with too much rev hang and I find it hard to shift smoothly. I'll learn the car more but I think the best method is to shift smoothly but quickly and catch revs coming down on an upshift.
4. Pedal placement is way too far apart for comfortable heel/toe. I can do it but really have to twist my foot. Will look for pedal extender. iMT works well but I don't want to always rely on it.
5. JBL stereo mostly sucks. It is acceptable just not great. I wish it had a factory subwoofer.
6. Headlights (low beams) are OK, not great. Bright enough but the cutoff is a bit low, as people have commented. Brights are good and auto-brights works well.
7. Exhaust is boomy at idle/low-rpm. Backseat passengers complained enough to say they don't want to ride back there.
8. The car does not get a lot of attention, except from car nerds. Those that know what it is check it out. Everyone else seems to ignore it. I'm OK with that!
9. I find the ride really good - a nice compromise of firmness and damping. Not as harsh as a FiST but more controlled. It feels very planted and neutral - fun to add power early in a turn and let it pull itself out. It will not oversteer, at least on dry pavement.
1. Infotainment setup is not ideal. Profiles seem to work but are a pain to setup and some settings aren't sticky. Icons on the touchscreen are too small and difficult to press while in motion. No Home button to reset UI location. Lots of buried settings and options that are hard to access. Overall, system is functional but not very intuitive.
2. Qi wireless charge works fine on my S22 Ultra with slim case. It is not a fast charger but holds charge and will charge slowly while running Android Auto with Google maps active.
3. Clutch takeup is a bit odd. Initial bite seems low but seems to slip through a lot of pedal travel. Combined with too much rev hang and I find it hard to shift smoothly. I'll learn the car more but I think the best method is to shift smoothly but quickly and catch revs coming down on an upshift.
4. Pedal placement is way too far apart for comfortable heel/toe. I can do it but really have to twist my foot. Will look for pedal extender. iMT works well but I don't want to always rely on it.
5. JBL stereo mostly sucks. It is acceptable just not great. I wish it had a factory subwoofer.
6. Headlights (low beams) are OK, not great. Bright enough but the cutoff is a bit low, as people have commented. Brights are good and auto-brights works well.
7. Exhaust is boomy at idle/low-rpm. Backseat passengers complained enough to say they don't want to ride back there.
8. The car does not get a lot of attention, except from car nerds. Those that know what it is check it out. Everyone else seems to ignore it. I'm OK with that!
9. I find the ride really good - a nice compromise of firmness and damping. Not as harsh as a FiST but more controlled. It feels very planted and neutral - fun to add power early in a turn and let it pull itself out. It will not oversteer, at least on dry pavement.
4. I just installed this on mine, and it's pretty good.4. Pedal placement is way too far apart for comfortable heel/toe. I can do it but really have to twist my foot. Will look for pedal extender. iMT works well but I don't want to always rely on it.
8. The car does not get a lot of attention, except from car nerds. Those that know what it is check it out. Everyone else seems to ignore it. I'm OK with that!
8. It's definitely a "if you know, you know" car.
It took me awhile to figure out, but I get very smooth shifts when driving casually by lifting off the accelerator pedal slightly before putting in the clutch to change gears. If you play around with the timing enough you'll eventually get it perfect.3. Clutch takeup is a bit odd. Initial bite seems low but seems to slip through a lot of pedal travel. Combined with too much rev hang and I find it hard to shift smoothly. I'll learn the car more but I think the best method is to shift smoothly but quickly and catch revs coming down on an upshift.
Of course, you can raise the headlight pattern if it's too low- see last page of attachment.6. Headlights (low beams) are OK, not great. Bright enough but the cutoff is a bit low, as people have commented.
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Just took delivery of mine yesterday and drove back roads all 4 hours (San Antonio to Houston) home to break it in properly. After a good night's sleep here are my 48 year-old gripes:
1) So many unnecessary gadgets!
Otherwise, absolutely loving it.
1) So many unnecessary gadgets!
- I had to get an app and create like 3 different accounts to connect my Samsung phone to car. Using GPS and selecting specific routes took forever and every time I turned off the car I had to redo my GPS route. It won't let you do this on your phone, so you are limited to the options the touch screen allows.
- Lane tracking is nice for people who don't pay attention when they're driving, but I couldn't figure out a way to turn it fully off. Even when it is grayed out it still "encourages" you to drive in your lane and dodging rocks or or other cars is more hazardous because of this extra steering wheel twitch.
Otherwise, absolutely loving it.
Yeah, on my first trip that drove me crazy and I actually stopped and put duct tape on the windshield to block the car’s cameras.Lane tracking is nice for people who don't pay attention when they're driving, but I couldn't figure out a way to turn it fully off.
But later I discovered that most of the "safety" features (including pre-collision system, lane departure alert, road sign assist, driver break suggestion, BSM, rear cross traffic alert, safe exit assist) CAN be turned off in the user settings.
See details starting at page 371 in the owner’s manual.
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