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What do you NOT LIKE about your new GRC

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And do you plan to just live with these issues or do something to improve them?

No.1 issue for me:

SEATS :

Not enough blustering for a sport/track car. Fast cornering to the right pushes left shoulder against hard pillar plastic. They are too high so I have to set steering wheel to full out and full up to get room for knees not to hit the wheel when shifting or braking.

2 other issues:

Engine is weaker than what reviews had claimed. I knew it would be low on torque but it just does not pull very hard from 2-4K. From seat of pants impression and from trying to merge, it is lacking. Weight and 4WD dont help I guess. Morizo has +20 torque so a proper tune can hopefully add torque down low and more HP.

Brakes have no initial bite. Will try this weekend to bed them in, might help. But will change to DTC-30s before autoX. That should improve brakes instantly.

Annoying but smaller things:

- Rev match off by default and no way to set it (should be addressed with tune)

- Not able to start in sport mode (tune)

- Nav app locked behind a pay wall. Money grab, GPS is built into the car.

- Looks like they glued a tablet to the dash.

Clutch pack heating I knew about, disappointing but should not be an issue for autoX. Track days in high heat maybe. But I am not the fastest guy on track so should be ok.
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Interior is not very good. The seats SHOULD be better, but they're comfortable enough. If I were turning this in to a dual duty/track car, I would replace at least the driver's seat. Lack of armrest. I just know that Toyota will make an armrest standard in 2024 MYs.

I hate the stupid annoying pop ups on the infotainment and dash. On the dash, these stupid notifications wont go away on their own and you have to hit the back button to clear them. I also hate how unintuitive the dash information is to customize. You're stuck with 3 presets and have to hold the OK button and press arrows to change the the left of right info squares.

The infotainment doesn't display engine metrics like oil temp, pressure, coolant temps, etc. like other performance cars such as the EN, VN, CTR, etc. Wasted space and function for track or spirited driving.

I also dislike the auto high beam function as it is both too sensitive AND not sensitive enough depending on conditions. Yes, I've changed the sensitivity, but either direction makes it worse than the default. I dislike that it's a button further down on the left side of the dash and not on the light stalk.

Dampers could have better damping especially for high speed compression and high speed rebound. Maybe a slightly larger rear anti-sway bar for more rotation as well.

Steering could be a heavier. I was surprised when I drove it and felt how light the steering was.

Exhaust note could be louder past 5000 RPM. I thought that's what the exhaust valve was for. Aftermarket will take care of it, but I feel that there's little to no middle ground with aftermarket exhausts. Either you're stuck with the quiet stock exhaust or you get a much, much louder aftermarket one. No in-between.

Engine is weaker than what reviews had claimed. I knew it would be low on torque but it just does not pull very hard from 2-4K. From seat of pants impression and from trying to merge, it is lacking. Weight and 4WD dont help I guess. Morizo has +20 torque so a proper tune can hopefully add torque down low and more HP.
I don't think any reviews I've read or watched claimed that the engine was strong under 3500-4000 RPM. In fact, the vast majority of them mention said it takes a while for it to get in to boost. The larger turbo for the 1.6 small displacement of the engine takes a long time to spool. If it had a smaller, faster spooling turbo to better match its displacement, it would have torque in the low RPMs but power will fall off sharply after 5000 RPM. I prefer the larger turbo, because I like the high RPM powerband. In addition, a larger turbo being off boost at low RPMs means better MPGs. I've owned several small turbo cars in the past and you have to drive those like a near-blinding grandma to get any decent gas mileage. With the GRC, I can rev it to 3-4k RPM before shifting during normal driving and still get over 20 MPGs. If I did that with my Veloster N, I would get 17 MPGs.

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Other than these gripes(I'm sure I'll find more in the future), it has at least met my expectations for a fun, all season, mostly practical daily driver. I think that Toyota went a little too conservative(even with the Morizo Edition) with this car, but that's just Toyota being Toyota. There is no doubt in my mind that the aftermarket will be massive for the GRC and one can build it however they want. Which is what I think Toyota was going for anyway.
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I've had mine since the first wave hit dealers in December. Here is my list of annoyances.

  • Low rent interior. I feel like I'm driving a $20k car when I paid $40k for this thing.
  • Lack of storage overall. No center console/armrest, no seat back pockets, small rear hatch.
  • Constant pop-ups on my cluster for things I do not care about. I don't need a pop-up every time I turn on cruise control or telling me that my engine is cold.
  • Gas tank is too small. I get that this is to save weight, but I'd really like a 16 gallon tank instead of the 13 it has now.
  • iMT and ALL of the drive modes need to be a persistent setting. I hate having to turn on iMT and switch to sport mode every time I drive the car.
  • No dual climate control when the XSE has it. This is just stupid.
  • No button in the cabin to open the hatch.
  • Gloss black plastic everywhere SUCKS. I need to wrap all of it at some point.
  • The brake pads are super dusty and squeaky (small gripe).
  • iMT doesn't always rev match. Maybe I'm downshifting too slow or something, but sometimes it just doesn't rev match.
  • Backup camera has the quality of a potato.
  • Wireless android auto randomly disconnects sometimes.
  • The JBL system desperately needs a small subwoofer.
  • The wireless charger sucks and won't charge either of my phones.
  • Lane keep assist deactivates itself after 10 seconds if it thinks you're not grabbing the wheel. Super annoying.
  • Active cruise is way too quick to brake. It seems to slam on the brakes if the car in front of me slows down a little instead of just letting off the throttle.
  • The seat belt alarm is the most annoying sound I've ever heard. (I always wear my seat belt when on the road, but I live on a large property and do not wear a seat belt when driving my car to my shop on private property.)
  • The cluster settings will not save the TPMS widget no matter what I do. The rest of my settings save, but TPMS always reverts back to something else every other drive or so.

I think that's everything. Most of my issues have to do with it just being a Corolla at the end of the day. Economy car problems. Maybe I should've bought an Audi or Lexus, lol.
The driving experience mostly makes up for all of the issues. I think this drivetrain with a Lexus interior and features would be my dream daily. I still plan to upgrade to a 2025 or 2026 Special edition when they release even with all the little issues I have with the car.
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Cant select which mode to start in (Custom or Sport would be great to default to)
I've had mine since the first wave hit dealers in December. Here is my list of annoyances.

  • Low rent interior. I feel like I'm driving a $20k car when I paid $40k for this thing.
  • Lack of storage overall. No center console/armrest, no seat back pockets, small rear hatch.
  • Constant pop-ups on my cluster for things I do not care about. I don't need a pop-up every time I turn on cruise control or telling me that my engine is cold.
  • Gas tank is too small. I get that this is to save weight, but I'd really like a 16 gallon tank instead of the 13 it has now.
  • iMT and ALL of the drive modes need to be a persistent setting. I hate having to turn on iMT and switch to sport mode every time I drive the car.
  • No dual climate control when the XSE has it. This is just stupid.
  • No button in the cabin to open the hatch.
  • Gloss black plastic everywhere SUCKS. I need to wrap all of it at some point.
  • The brake pads are super dusty and squeaky (small gripe).
  • iMT doesn't always rev match. Maybe I'm downshifting too slow or something, but sometimes it just doesn't rev match.
  • Backup camera has the quality of a potato.
  • Wireless android auto randomly disconnects sometimes.
  • The JBL system desperately needs a small subwoofer.
  • The wireless charger sucks and won't charge either of my phones.
  • Lane keep assist deactivates itself after 10 seconds if it thinks you're not grabbing the wheel. Super annoying.
  • Active cruise is way too quick to brake. It seems to slam on the brakes if the car in front of me slows down a little instead of just letting off the throttle.
  • The seat belt alarm is the most annoying sound I've ever heard. (I always wear my seat belt when on the road, but I live on a large property and do not wear a seat belt when driving my car to my shop on private property.)
  • The cluster settings will not save the TPMS widget no matter what I do. The rest of my settings save, but TPMS always reverts back to something else every other drive or so.

I think that's everything. Most of my issues have to do with it just being a Corolla at the end of the day. Economy car problems. Maybe I should've bought an Audi or Lexus, lol.
The driving experience mostly makes up for all of the issues. I think this drivetrain with a Lexus interior and features would be my dream daily. I still plan to upgrade to a 2025 or 2026 Special edition when they release even with all the little issues I have with the car.

Same to all of the above. Deff going to sell mine now. lol jk jk

Also that seatbelt ALARM IS ABSOLUTEY HORRIBLE!!! im just moving it around my driveway!! Please relax!
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Whoever created the seatbelt alarm in this car should be shot....
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Whoever created the seatbelt alarm in this car should be shot....
It is the worse alert sound I have ever heard, and it's loud enough to cause permanent hearing damage. I HATE it. Which I guess is the point.
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And do you plan to just live with these issues or do something to improve them?

No.1 issue for me:

SEATS :

Not enough blustering for a sport/track car. Fast cornering to the right pushes left shoulder against hard pillar plastic. They are too high so I have to set steering wheel to full out and full up to get room for knees not to hit the wheel when shifting or braking.

2 other issues:

Engine is weaker than what reviews had claimed. I knew it would be low on torque but it just does not pull very hard from 2-4K. From seat of pants impression and from trying to merge, it is lacking. Weight and 4WD dont help I guess. Morizo has +20 torque so a proper tune can hopefully add torque down low and more HP.

Brakes have no initial bite. Will try this weekend to bed them in, might help. But will change to DTC-30s before autoX. That should improve brakes instantly.

Annoying but smaller things:

- Rev match off by default and no way to set it (should be addressed with tune)

- Not able to start in sport mode (tune)

- Nav app locked behind a pay wall. Money grab, GPS is built into the car.

- Looks like they glued a tablet to the dash.

Clutch pack heating I knew about, disappointing but should not be an issue for autoX. Track days in high heat maybe. But I am not the fastest guy on track so should be ok.
Brother, I do not know where you drive in Canada (401?),
but this thing has no trouble merging with/passing normal traffic.
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I think this would be better titled: 2 month ownership check-in, what is great, and what is not so great.

not so great:
  • JBL rear speakers are non-existent, meaning to have a decent range of audio, it sounds like the sound is coming out of the windshield and possibly the car in front of me.
  • wireless charger is non-existent.
  • it'd be nice if the iMT setting would persist, but just as with the STI, it's part of the startup procedure now. start the car, flip switch to sport, press iMT button, check mirrors, put on seatbelt and go. not great, but it is what it is.
  • the TPMS not persisting is mildly annoying.
  • before the engine has come up to a temp that the ECU says is safe, the iMT is VERY slow. you have to be on your toes with the engine while it's in the warm-up mode, luckily, I live in Houston and the outside temp is usually 175F anyway, so the car starts and is in optimal operating temp immediately.
great for me:
  • the interior is spartan and purposeful. there aren't wasted things and the purpose of the vehicle is understood immediately as a car for driving.
  • the cubby holes under the hatch floor are very useful for storing things I need to have with me, but don't want cluttering the interior, or have just laying in the hatch area.
  • the power delivery is great, very linear, granted I come from a long line of Subarus with questionable stock tunes and my immediate previous car was a '18 BRZ.
  • initially I didn't like the shifter feel, but the shifter feel has grown on me. it didn't feel as engaging as the BRZ did, but actually after 2 months of ownership, it almost feels like after a break-in period, it's gotten better. or maybe I've gotten used to it.
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+1000 for the things already mentioned. Persistent driving settings is my #1.

Only thing I'll add that I didn't see is that the steering feel is a bit "comfortably numb". I can feel the road, I get the sensation of turning etc I just don't get much feedback. Heavier would be nice as mentioned already, but MORE feedback/input feel would be awesome.
I love many things about the car but if there’s one thing I hate…

It’s definitely the placement of the brake and throttle pedals. Maybe I got used to the BRZ & GR86. But in the GRC the brake pedal is so much higher than the throttle pedal AND there’s a decent space in between them. It makes it very difficult to heel-toe. I’ve been practicing but it just feels so unnatural
Ill be totally honest....if I had to pick one thing I hated about my grc, it would 100% be nothing.
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Just drove to town on a snowy day, so fresh in my mind is the persistent pop-up warnings. Ice sticks to the radar sensor? Constant pop-telling you to clean the sensor that just keeps popping up no matter how many times you dismiss it. Same thing when the camera can't see the lane lines, alert dismiss alert dismiss alert dismiss.
"System inoperative, Check your owners manual" without telling you what has shut down. Maybe give us a page number?

The steering seems very numb when you are trying to detect that slight freeing of the wheel when the front tires lose traction. The car seems to stick well with good snow tires, but I'm not sure what's happening at the limit.

Obligatory mention of no spare tire, no jack, no console storage, silly wireless charger taking up more storage room, paywalled navigation, nosy Toyota Connect apps, tiny rear door opening, feeble horn, silly fog lights, small gas tank and a high gross weight for a compact car.

Connect data is with AT&T, which does not have the best coverage in rural areas, so nav search is frequently not available for me.

Of course a lot of this is going to be the case with any new car....
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I agree with all the above but my gripe is the seats, I would've liked a better seat design (like the CTR; those seats are godly) don't get me wrong the seat are comfy but they could've made them sportier.
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Ill be totally honest....if I had to pick one thing I hated about my grc, it would 100% be nothing.
Agreed. Maybe the horn though...?
I've had mine since the first wave hit dealers in December. Here is my list of annoyances.

  • Low rent interior. I feel like I'm driving a $20k car when I paid $40k for this thing.
I'm coming from a 2019 Ford Fiesta ST, which, save for the Sync 3 screen, was last updated in 2014. The GRC interior is downright luxe!!! :ROFLMAO:

I agree with most else.

I would also add the f'in POS Qi wireless phone charger. Won't work with my phone with the case on at all; super picky about where the phone is with the case off. And even when it does "work", if I'm streaming CarPlay, music, and a navigation app, it's only a 5W charge, so the battery discharges anyway. And I think Toyota almost knew is was a POS - that's why they put the USB-C port right next to the Qi pad...
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I agree with all the above but my gripe is the seats, I would've liked a better seat design (like the CTR; seat those are godly) don't get me wrong the seat are comfy but they could've made them sportier.
I'm half-regretting not trying to keep the factory Recaro seats that were in my Fiesta ST!
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Whoever created the seatbelt alarm in this car should be shot....
I've got an OBDLink gizmo.... the Carista app I think can change that. I should try... maybe....
Agreed. Maybe the horn though...?
Ahh you know? I have yet to honk the horn on it lol. But you are probably right as most oem horns are pretty wimpy.
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