Toyota Salesman out of IA Gives Latest On GR Corolla

Feels more like clickbait for his CHB video; he didn't really confirm anything for the GR - just repeated existing speculations with a similar amount of uncertainty.

luluna said:

Feels more like clickbait for his CHB video; he didn't really confirm anything for the GR - just repeated existing speculations with a similar amount of uncertainty.

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Agree

luluna said:

Feels more like clickbait for his CHB video; he didn't really confirm anything for the GR - just repeated existing speculations with a similar amount of uncertainty.

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Nice to hear it in a YouTube from a dealership pov. Nice to hear confirmation that our information is also what the dealers are being told. Nice to hear approximates on reveal and when it will hit dealerships that coincide with what we have previously heard.

Nemesis said:

Nice to hear it in a YouTube from a dealership pov. Nice to hear confirmation that our information is also what the dealers are being told. Nice to hear approximates on reveal and when it will hit dealerships that coincide with what we have previously heard.

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But it's not any sort of confirmation though - and he doesn't provide any sources and everything is "should", "likely", "probably", "I hear" (from who??). He is literally making the same educated guesses we are. It would be misguided to assume anything he says is an actual confirmation of anything other than the GRCHB will exist, lol.

It's a nice share - I'm just pointing out that the motive is likely to clickbait and advertise the XSE.

I'd be willing to bet he heard 30/70 and said 37.

I have a reliable source at a Toyota dealer saying the GR Carolla will only be offered in FWD - He's expecting a configurator and options to be released to dealers by June.

Please tell me he's wrong about the fwd.

With the Toyota website itself promoting the “hot hatch” for the US market, and picking 4 photos to share with one of them being the gr-four system, and then promotes gr-four and rally on their US Instagram on a Corolla, I can’t imagine we are that far off the mark.

Now I wouldn’t be surprised if they also have GR sport or something if the sort in FWD as a package for the Corolla that’s different from the AWD GR Corolla.

I think no source is going to be reliable till Toyota themselves officially announce the car. I think there's so many variants and naming conventions that it's possible that all these things are 'true'.

I think it's very possible that they'll release a GR Corolla HB with the GR-Four AWD system and a Corolla HB GR that is a base model with sportier upgrades. It is also possible that they're talking about the non hatchback Corolla and that is receiving the GR treatment instead.

I think the only thing we've practically confirmed at this point is that it will have the GR-Four system since it was officially teased at least twice.

I’m just reading the rumors and having a good time. Lol

luluna said:

But it's not any sort of confirmation though - and he doesn't provide any sources and everything is "should", "likely", "probably", "I hear" (from who??). He is literally making the same educated guesses we are. It would be misguided to assume anything he says is an actual confirmation of anything other than the GRCHB will exist, lol.

It's a nice share - I'm just pointing out that the motive is likely to clickbait and advertise the XSE.

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No, anyone who has been through this before knows that there will be no confirmation until the official announcement from Toyota. The point of this post was to give another point of reference. During this period in the process, we gather all,of the information we are hearing, do the best we can to validate it, and then triangulate the truth based on those items that we hear repeated. The assumption being made here is not that we have confirmation, but that if a salesman posted something on YouTube, while representing his dealership publicly, that he is giving the most accurate information that they have at the time. But no one here thinks dealerships are perfect or that Dealerships have all the answers. Again, we use all the rumors to come up with a concept of what has not yet been revealed. So this information was to give, yet another example of, the things dealerships are telling us at this time to compare to what we have heard.

Nephs said:

I have a reliable source at a Toyota dealer saying the GR Carolla will only be offered in FWD - He's expecting a configurator and options to be released to dealers by June.

Please tell me he's wrong about the fwd.

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There was also a dealership rumor at one time that toyota would offer a rear seat delete. I think that Toyota is testing the waters because they really want to make this car everything we want it to be, and also make it affordable. It’s always possible that they would offer it in in fwd and awd. But at this time the official teases have only indicated the GT-Four AWD system and not a fwd option. So I would say it’s safe to say the AWD system will be available.

Anyone else feel like Toyota dragging the gr corolla a lil too long? Like I just want a clear good quality photo of the car. I don't even care if it still has the camo wrap.

Yunhsi said:

Anyone else feel like Toyota dragging the gr corolla a lil too long? Like I just want a clear good quality photo of the car. I don't even care if it still has the camo wrap.

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I would really like them to show us, but if the Scion FR-S reveal is any indication, they may be trying to make last minute changes to meet expectations. They may start showing it off driving around in camo in little outings in public. I would kind of like something like that…I’m still up for teases….I mean we have to wait until summer to put an order in anyway…might as well make the experience fun in the meantime.

Nemesis said:

Video:

• not as aggressive as GR Yaris
• will likely be built in the same part of the factory as GR Yaris
• same 1.6ltr 3 cylinder but likely between 280-300hp
• only coming in a manual transmission to start with
• possible 0-60 in 5.2 seconds
• same all wheel drive system as GR Yaris sending as much as 37% of power to rear wheels
• as long as there are no other circumstances, they are expected at dealerships in August 2022 as 2023 model
• reveal expected at an auto show in late spring/early summer 2022
• details may or June 2022

(scan to end of video for GR Corolla news)

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I was told by a dealer that production would start around September. Seems that we can’t 100% believe any timelines given by dealers at this point. Most are saying they don’t know, so not sure where the ones giving dates are getting them. Maybe guessing based on their experience of previous reveals? Who knows.

Nemesis said:

There was also a dealership rumor at one time that toyota would offer a rear seat delete. I think that Toyota is testing the waters because they really want to make this car everything we want it to be, and also make it affordable. It’s always possible that they would offer it in in fwd and awd. But at this time the official teases have only indicated the GT-Four AWD system and not a fwd option. So I would say it’s safe to say the AWD system will be available.

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Given how much emphasis and expectation there is on making the GR Corolla similar to a GR Yaris, I don’t put is past them to offer a FWD.

After all, the current GR Yaris in Japan was offered with both FWD and AWD since launch.

Nephs said:

I have a reliable source at a Toyota dealer saying the GR Carolla will only be offered in FWD - He's expecting a configurator and options to be released to dealers by June.

Please tell me he's wrong about the fwd.

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Highly doubt they’ll pair the 3 cyl with FWD. The only reason to do that would be to make the car cheaper, but I’m not sure that it would even do that given that the 3 cyl has only been used with the GR-4 system, so they’d have a lot of reworking to do with diffs and everything else to sort it for FWD.

007 said:

Given how much emphasis and expectation there is on making the GR Corolla similar to a GR Yaris, I don’t put is past them to offer a FWD.

After all, the current GR Yaris in Japan was offered with both FWD and AWD since launch.

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I believe you’re thinking of the GR Yaris RS, which is just a GR yaris body with normal 1.5 engine and CVT. There’s no full GR Yaris with FWD and the legit engine. Since we already have the Corolla 5 door body there’s no reason for a similar model to come here

Grrrr said:

I believe you’re thinking of the Yaris GR sport (or some name like that), which is just a base yaris with appearance package/maybe suspension upgrades in the normal 5 door yaris. There’s no full GR Yaris with FWD

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This is what I mean by the GR line being super confusing and I'm sure there is truth about the FWD offering in some degree.

Japan offered two variants (before GRMN) of the GR Yaris - the RS and the RZ. The RZ is the one we all know and love with the GR-FOUR system. The RS is a FWD with an automatic transmission (CVT) and a M15A engine (different from the G16E found on the RZ).