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Toyota handle debut better than Honda CTR, Ford? More msrp dealers ?

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I noticed finding a Toyota msrp dealer was easier than a Honda.
There are actually some msrp dealers in SoCal and I couldn’t find a Honda one
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I noticed finding a Toyota msrp dealer was easier than a Honda.
There are actually some msrp dealers in SoCal and I couldn’t find a Honda one
I was also thing about Ford bronco but not sure if they released at msrp during preorder at debut
A lot of Bronco's didn't sell for MSRP I don't believe. Ford is supposed to crack down on it but I'm sure there's loopholes or very little repercussions. There's been talk Toyota will do the same but I'm not putting any faith into it. No manufacturers really do anything about it so finding certain dealers is just up to where you live
I noticed finding a Toyota msrp dealer was easier than a Honda.
There are actually some msrp dealers in SoCal and I couldn’t find a Honda one
Honda's always been a shifty one. All the promotional emails I've ever gotten have only listed very vague discounts/% APR promotions, never any actual selling price. I've been helping some colleagues find some Honda's, and we pretty much called all Honda's within a 300mi radius, and absolutely none of them are doing MSRP.

Toyota dealerships however, there are a handful around here. Honda dealerships are like the Kia's of the Japanese automakers. They will definitely stick it to you however they can.
I found one near me (I live in the DC area) and have my deposit with them. I’m 4th in line and I’m feeling pretty okay about it…I figure the odds are decent that someone in front of me pulls out before they start delivering them (whether it’s due to pricing, someone deciding they like the new CTR better, etc.) and/or at least one person is CE only. I just want a core with the performance package, and as many people here have said your odds will be better if you’re flexible.

Also, you can figure out if a dealership is MSRP only pretty easily. Their online listings will tell the story, and I know I hate picking up the phone/dealing with salespeople unless I absolutely have to.

AND, while we’re dunking on Hyundai/Kia….as of today a Kia dealership near me has to pay out $1,000,000 to their customers because of bogus fees. Folks brought the issue to the AG’s attention, they investigated, and found that the dealership was responsible. It really warms the heart to read about these sleazeballs getting theirs ❤

I’ve looked at Hyundais a few times and I refuse to give them the time of day until they do something about their absolutely horrific dealerships. Before the GRC was announced I really wanted to look at the N models…and every dealership I tried to work with treated me like a 16 year old fresh off getting their license. I got laughed at, told to consider other cars, had my information taken then was never contacted…and when I finally found an Elantra N it was marked up to $41,000….

I will not take them seriously until they fix this, and I know many enthusiasts who agree with me. If you find an article on a Hyundai/Kia online the first comments are always horror stories about their dealerships. It seems like anyone who’s set foot in one has one…
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A dealer can tell you they’ll charge msrp, they can tell you anything they want. When the car comes in the likelihood of it being sold to you at msrp is very low but good luck
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I've been looking around too for a msrp Honda dealer in socal and from what I gathered, there is no Longo Toyota equivalent for Honda in CA.

What people do is buy out of state at msrp and have it delivered to CA but then you're still looking at 2-3k delivery fee which will be around the ballpark of some dealers adm. Maybe just buy it on the east coast and road trip it back.
I've been looking around too for a msrp Honda dealer in socal and from what I gathered, there is no Longo Toyota equivalent for Honda in CA.

What people do is buy out of state at msrp and have it delivered to CA but then you're still looking at 2-3k delivery fee which will be around the ballpark of some dealers adm. Maybe just buy it on the east coast and road trip it back.
A word of caution for out of state buyers: California has one of the strongest lemon laws in the country. I could've used it when I bought one of my previous cars out of state. Sure, it's a Toyota but at the end of the day, it's still built by humans.
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As someone from southern NY…they all suck.
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A lot of Bronco's didn't sell for MSRP I don't believe. Ford is supposed to crack down on it but I'm sure there's loopholes or very little repercussions. There's been talk Toyota will do the same but I'm not putting any faith into it. No manufacturers really do anything about it so finding certain dealers is just up to where you live
Many manufactures will put out a release saying they do not condone ADM pricing while following up with something to the effect that they are monitoring the situation and will penalize dealers doing this by reducing future allocations. The reality is that they are simply distancing themselves from the dealers by telling angry consumers that "it's them not us". I have never seen any manufacturers actually follow through as over the past year Ford has publicly stated that they are cracking down on dealers overcharging for the Bronco, Mach E, F150 Lighting yet it's still nearly impossible to purchase any of these vehicles at MSRP. Manufactures simply don't want to make waves by penalizing the successful dealer networks entrusted to move their product as the statements are usually nothing more than PR.
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