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Since the GR Corolla will be sharing the same powertrain with the GR Yaris that means we'll be getting a manual transmission! The question then becomes whether or not the GR Corolla will be exclusively manual (like the Yaris) or will there be an automatic version as well. Hopefully it stays purely manual as a proper enthusiasts car.
 

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Since the GR Corolla will be sharing the same powertrain with the GR Yaris that means we'll be getting a manual transmission! The question then becomes whether or not the GR Corolla will be exclusively manual (like the Yaris) or will there be an automatic version as well. Hopefully it stays purely manual as a proper enthusiasts car.
I agree. I would rather keep it more special and manual only for those that will appreciate it more and keep it more unique. This will be my 5th MT car that I currently own. 😍
 

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I agree. I would rather keep it more special and manual only for those that will appreciate it more and keep it more unique. This will be my 5th MT car that I currently own. 😍
It'll be interesting to see what they decide. Since the manual is pretty much a guarantee I don't necessarily mind an auto version as well. I'm just glad it's not the other way around and we don't have to harass Toyota to try and get a manual version.
 

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I am glad they are keeping the trend alive and ensuring manuals are still an option. However, it'd also be neat to see them add a DCT option to rival the new velosters and Golf R's. The veloster DCT was surprisingly peppy and fun to drive with it's smooth transmission!
 

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I am glad they are keeping the trend alive and ensuring manuals are still an option. However, it'd also be neat to see them add a DCT option to rival the new velosters and Golf R's. The veloster DCT was surprisingly peppy and fun to drive with it's smooth transmission!
Welcome to the forum.

DCT is definitely the way to go but how much do you think it can improve performance when it comes to 0-60, 1/4 mile times, etc.?

With enough time shaved off I'm sure Toyota will use it a lot in marketing material.
 

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I am glad they are keeping the trend alive and ensuring manuals are still an option. However, it'd also be neat to see them add a DCT option to rival the new velosters and Golf R's. The veloster DCT was surprisingly peppy and fun to drive with it's smooth transmission!
I kind of like the idea of a 6MT only to keep the car more unique and for owners that really like the driving interaction. It would also make it more special and for every yahoo that thinks that just because they can put it in "D" that they are some type of amazing driver. It would be unique like the Civic Type R is today, serious drivers only.
 

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I am glad they are keeping the trend alive and ensuring manuals are still an option. However, it'd also be neat to see them add a DCT option to rival the new velosters and Golf R's. The veloster DCT was surprisingly peppy and fun to drive with it's smooth transmission!
It would be cool if Toyota developed a new DCT for the GR Corolla I'll admit but I can't see them putting resources into that unfortunately. (I'll happily be proven wrong Toyota if you're listening).
 

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Welcome to the forum.

DCT is definitely the way to go but how much do you think it can improve performance when it comes to 0-60, 1/4 mile times, etc.?

With enough time shaved off I'm sure Toyota will use it a lot in marketing material.
Thank you! I've never been a part of a forum in such infancy.

It's about a fraction quicker.
I believe for 0-60 times I've read on:

Veloster
DCT - 5.6s
Manual - 5.8s

Golf R :
DSG: 4.4 - 4.7s (some redditor was able to hit 4s on stock)
Manual: 4.9s
 

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Thank you! I've never been a part of a forum in such infancy.

It's about a fraction quicker.
I believe for 0-60 times I've read on:

Veloster
DCT - 5.6s
Manual - 5.8s

Golf R :
DSG: 4.4 - 4.7s (some redditor was able to hit 4s on stock)
Manual: 4.9s
I don't care about the DCT because I don't drive my cars like that and I could care less about drag strip times. I'm all about driving it in the hills, mountains, canyons, snow and the like. I'm all about carving the canyon roads and enjoying the experience of being one with the driving experience so have a 6MT amplifies that 10 fold over a DCT.
 

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I don't care about the DCT because I don't drive my cars like that and I could care less about drag strip times. I'm all about driving it in the hills, mountains, canyons, snow and the like. I'm all about carving the canyon roads and enjoying the experience of being one with the driving experience so have a 6MT amplifies that 10 fold over a DCT.
We might be a dying breed @JimsGarageToys ! There's something about the manual input required for a manual transmission. Everything from the feel, sound, look, and even tradition is appealing to me. Maybe I haven't driven enough DCT cars to make this assessment and maybe I'm being a somewhat biased. It's just hard to imagine removing the stick and third pedal in my opinion. There's something satisfying about pushing a clutch, pulling a stick shift, smashing an accelerator, and doing it all over again. Flicking a little paddle or letting the car make all of the shifting decisions seems less engaging. I just spent the weekend driving through the Ozark mountains in a Santa Fe AWD Sport which has "manual" tiptronic like shifting option. It got the job done for engine breaking and some quick passing but I was dreaming of being in a GRC instead and how much freakin' fun that would be. Also, I'm not a track guy nor am I in to shaving fractions off my lap time to the grocery store :LOL:
 

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We might be a dying breed @JimsGarageToys ! There's something about the manual input required for a manual transmission. Everything from the feel, sound, look, and even tradition is appealing to me. Maybe I haven't driven enough DCT cars to make this assessment and maybe I'm being a somewhat biased. It's just hard to imagine removing the stick and third pedal in my opinion. There's something satisfying about pushing a clutch, pulling a stick shift, smashing an accelerator, and doing it all over again. Flicking a little paddle or letting the car make all of the shifting decisions seems less engaging. I just spent the weekend driving through the Ozark mountains in a Santa Fe AWD Sport which has "manual" tiptronic like shifting option. It got the job done for engine breaking and some quick passing but I was dreaming of being in a GRC instead and how much freakin' fun that would be. Also, I'm not a track guy nor am I in to shaving fractions off my lap time to the grocery store :LOL:
Very well said, It's about the visceral experience when I'm driving and being one with the road. Every time I drive any transmission that shifts itself like any DCT, AT, or CVT does I'm just missing something. I feel so disconnected with the experience. Several years ago my youngest daughter and I took a 6k mile trip all over the western states in my 2017 RAV4 that has a 6AT. The trip was fun but I sure missed out on a lot of fun drives and I was wishing that I was in my 2009 Corolla S 5MT that I turbocharged. I'm so looking forward to exploring some of my favorite drives between WA State and New Mexico after I get my GRC.
 

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A close relative who works in Toyota mentioned that Toyota is looking at possibly providing both a 6MT and either a 6AT (similar to the gr86 ) or an 8AT. The 6AT will be slower than the 6MT because it is heavier and uses fluid to transfer the power instead of gears. If it is an 8AT it will be similar to the Lexus RC F/ RC200t transmission which isn't the greatest but may help shave off some time shifting unlike the 6AT in the gr86.

It seems they are going down the route to appeal to both enthusiasts and normal drivers looking for a hot hatch to change their image and hopefully make a profit unlike the GR Yaris which they are losing money for.
 

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A close relative who works in Toyota mentioned that Toyota is looking at possibly providing both a 6MT and either a 6AT (similar to the gr86 ) or an 8AT. The 6AT will be slower than the 6MT because it is heavier and uses fluid to transfer the power instead of gears. If it is an 8AT it will be similar to the Lexus RC F/ RC200t transmission which isn't the greatest but may help shave off some time shifting unlike the 6AT in the gr86.

It seems they are going down the route to appeal to both enthusiasts and normal drivers looking for a hot hatch to change their image and hopefully make a profit unlike the GR Yaris which they are losing money for.
I'm okay with having an option for an automatic as long as it's not a CVT. Hell, I'd even consider buying the current Corolla hatch if it had a snappy 6-8AT (The manny models are hard to come by in my state!). I'm most interested in the AWD and added power in the GRC. A lot of imported automatic transmissions have come a long way in terms of performance while maintaining most of their reliability and "fun-ability", but as many of you all know, Toyota is slow to update. I guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it (despite being lackluster and uninspiring!). Adding more parts to the gearbox used to have it's cons (size, extra parts, drag) but from what I've read, engineering solutions have made it a no brainer to incorporate these 8-10 speed trannies for performance and efficiency.

I just still can't get down with the CVT craze right now. I don't need to save 5 MPG and I definitely don't need to host a suite of semi-autonomous, self-driving, safety features (adaptive cruise, lane keep assist, self park, etc.). I also don't want my car to sound like a droning bumble bee. Most carmakers have adopted CVTs and 8-10 speed AT with fuel economy in mind. Does the Corolla really need to make 45 MPG rather than 35 MPG? Maybe if you want to save your bank account and maybe even the Earth? Call me a curmudgeon if you want, but that's my stance and I'm sticking to it :LOL:
 

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Doesn't seem likely to be a CVT, Toyota only use them in non-performance cars or hybrids. The CVT on the Corolla Hybrid 2.0 I have isn't great and I would be really disappointed if Toyota went ahead and did the same with the GR. The CVT can feel a little lackluster and not responsive at times but it is a lot better with paddle shifters so you can keep the revs up out of turns and bends or when overtaking or changing lanes.
 

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Sorry if someone already said this, but I imagine we will have to see an automatic at some point. The way I see it, the GRC will be released as MT and AT from the get go or purely MT for the first year or two, max, then both MT and AT will be available.
 

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Sorry if someone already said this, but I imagine we will have to see an automatic at some point. The way I see it, the GRC will be released as MT and AT from the get go or purely MT for the first year or two, max, then both MT and AT will be available.
Most likely AT (& MT!) from the beginning as legislations may be introduced surrounding emissions and other factors which will prevent Toyota from selling cars with the G16 for many years.
 

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Most likely AT from the beginning as legislations may be introduced surrounding emissions and other factors which will prevent Toyota from selling cars with the G16 for many years.
I really hope they don't. That would be a huge let down.

Since the GRC will likely share the same drivetrain as the GRY, I'm very hopeful it'll come with a manual at release. I don't believe the GRY is even available as an auto.
 

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Most likely AT from the beginning as legislations may be introduced surrounding emissions and other factors which will prevent Toyota from selling cars with the G16 for many years.
I really hope they don't. That would be a huge let down.

Since the GRC will likely share the same drivetrain as the GRY, I'm very hopeful it'll come with a manual at release. I don't believe the GRY is even available as an auto.
Its definitely coming with a manual on release. Lol
 
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