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Indicated 148mph is probably only approaching an actual 141-142mph, there may indeed be a limiter, but Toyota ECU may use actual speed calculation in the ECU?
How do you suppose the ECM could see anything other than wheel speed? GPS couldn't possibly be accurate enough for the task at hand. And if you had taller tires installed, you'd be going faster than indicated, but the car still wouldn't know it.
 
How do you suppose the ECM could see anything other than wheel speed? GPS couldn't possibly be accurate enough for the task at hand. And if you had taller tires installed, you'd be going faster than indicated, but the car still wouldn't know it.

Rpm + gear selected

i wonder if it is for high exhaust gas temperature safety maybe.

Also I think there is a speed sensor on the diff in order for the car to know what gear you are in without releasing the clutch.

nope strike that, it still wouldn’t work
 
Rpm + gear selected

i wonder if it is for high exhaust gas temperature safety maybe.

Also I think there is a speed sensor on the diff in order for the car to know what gear you are in without releasing the clutch.

nope strike that, it still wouldn’t work
I don't know if it's the case here, haven't bothered to look. But I know on many vehicles they are artificially limited to whatever is the top speed rating for the OEM tires. I forget what it is on my Tacoma, but it's a relatively low figure, just barely over 100. But I have verified that it is there.
 
How do you suppose the ECM could see anything other than wheel speed? GPS couldn't possibly be accurate enough for the task at hand. And if you had taller tires installed, you'd be going faster than indicated, but the car still wouldn't know it.
I'd assume that the ECU is getting a very accurate read of wheel speed from the several ABS sensors. In this era of multi axis computer control of vehicle stability, I'd say the manufacturers are very confident of sensor accuracy at an individual wheel level.
GPS speed accuracy would be affected by the visibility of satellites and quality of signal, and most of all the update speed of location readings, but it is accurate enough to guide precision weapons at ballistic speeds, and is widely used in motorsports data analysis. In my experience and from what I've read GPS (and timed mile markers) consistently shows most speedometers to be displaying faster speeds than actual, by amounts outside calculation errors. Typically something like 62-63 at an actual 60 with OEM tire sizes. I have to assume there is a regulatory, liability or marketing motivation to not display the actual speed.
 
I even tried it in expert mode it stops at 6000 RPM while in 6th gear got to love the drive from New-mexico to Roswell where the roads are as far as the eye can see and smooth, my trip back to Texas just after Christmas! i kept on it for at least 20-30 seconds and it seemed fine to me at this speed. I'm not one to drive fast unless the conditions are right. It was cold and at high altitude on 91 octane which is all you can get up there. I do notice with my cruise control it would sometimes be off a single MPH bellow what it is set to, but not always not to sure why that is but perhaps that is why it only showed 149 instead of 150. Temps were lower on mine I noticed, but it was also 39F outside temperature for me.


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I even tried it in expert mode it stops at 6000 RPM while in 6th gear got to love the drive from New-mexico to Roswell where the roads are as far as the eye can see and smooth, my trip back to Texas just after Christmas! i kept on it for at least 20-30 seconds and it seemed fine to me at this speed. I'm not one to drive fast unless the conditions are right. It was cold and at high altitude on 91 octane which is all you can get up there. I do notice with my cruise control it would sometimes be off a single MPH bellow what it is set to, but not always not to sure why that is but perhaps that is why it only showed 149 instead of 150. Temps were lower on mine I noticed, but it was also 39F outside temperature for me.


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damn!!!! then top speed is probably around 155mph /250km/h
 
I even tried it in expert mode it stops at 6000 RPM while in 6th gear got to love the drive from New-mexico to Roswell where the roads are as far as the eye can see and smooth, my trip back to Texas just after Christmas! i kept on it for at least 20-30 seconds and it seemed fine to me at this speed. I'm not one to drive fast unless the conditions are right. It was cold and at high altitude on 91 octane which is all you can get up there. I do notice with my cruise control it would sometimes be off a single MPH bellow what it is set to, but not always not to sure why that is but perhaps that is why it only showed 149 instead of 150. Temps were lower on mine I noticed, but it was also 39F outside temperature for me.


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Nice! Yeah my cruise control often falls to one below whatever I set it too, I think I heard others it does the same too, my older civic it was always dead on, and held that cruise control speed really well.
 
Nice! Yeah my cruise control often falls to one below whatever I set it too, I think I heard others it does the same too, my older civic it was always dead on, and held that cruise control speed really well.
For the record, this is not just a GRC thing. All Toyotas do this. I had many customers complain about it, but Toyota's answer was always just, yep, that's what they do.
 
For the record, this is not just a GRC thing. All Toyotas do this. I had many customers complain about it, but Toyota's answer was always just, yep, that's what they do.
FYI in Canada where we use kilometres our cruise also does this and there are 1.6km in 1 mile. Something to do with the programming.
 
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