Supra vs Z

Also wild to note- Toyota claims 382 hp for the Supra, it pumps out 397 to the wheels. Nissan claims 400 hp for the Z, but on a dyno it was 372.

ccrook06 said:

Didn't really know where to share this video, so I figured I'd start a GR thread for all things GR. SavageGeese droppin the goods once again.

Incredible how (in regard to track times) the 86 is closer to the Z, than the Z is to the Supra. Awesome little car that if I didn't live in a snowy climate, I'd have a hard time deciding between it and the GRC.

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That was a fun video. They did mention the 86 had new wheels and tires on it, so that did make a difference. Also you can see BMW's trick of underrating engines showing up!

Lug_Nuts_23 said:

That was a fun video. They did mention the 86 had new wheels and tires on it, so that did make a difference. Also you can see BMW's trick of underrating engines showing up!

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That's true, Apex wheels if I recall which should be lighter than stock.

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Why is Nissan Armada perfume even a thing🤣?

Ari Speed said:

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Why is Nissan Armada perfume even a thing🤣?

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IDK, but it's not the only one. Though if this is anything to go by, they're on their way out and on sale: https://www.fragrancenet.com/fragrances/nissan
Expensive bribes they aren't.

Lug_Nuts_23 said:

IDK, but it's not the only one. Though if this is anything to go by, they're on their way out and on sale: https://www.fragrancenet.com/fragrances/nissan
Expensive bribes they aren't.

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What's it smell like? Burnt oil?

Ironworker842 said:

What's it smell like? Burnt oil?

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And burnt brake pads in the case of the Z and GT-R, knowing how under-spec the brakes on high performance Nissans tend to be.

All joking aside, nissan z cars are never perfect. My father owns a 370z, and I always say it's 20 grand away from greatness. And I don't think nissan is wrong in what they offer because I don't think ppl would pay 60 or 70 grand for a z car. The Base car at 45 g canadian is a perfect canvas for what you want to do to it.

Ironworker842 said:

All joking aside, nissan z cars are never perfect. My father owns a 370z, and I always say it's 20 grand away from greatness. And I don't think nissan is wrong in what they offer because I don't think ppl would pay 60 or 70 grand for a z car. The Base car at 45 g canadian is a perfect canvas for what you want to do to it.

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I was doing a little research for fun on the 370z some time ago and apparently replacing the concentric clutch slave cylinder with a heavy-duty external slave cylinder upgrade is something you're basically guaranteed to need to do. Replacing the electric steering column lock is also quite likely. I do agree though that it makes a good canvas for upgrades, (much like Toyota/Subaru try to do with the BRZ/86 twins, though the Nissan is of course much more powerful to begin with.)

I did read some old fairly in-depth tests of the 370z and even the optional performance brake pads would fade and Nissan's staff knew it. The magazine suspected that there simply isn't enough air going to the brakes to cool them. Z Meets Wall: We Investigate Why the NISMO Z's Brakes Failed at Lightning Lap
(I'm fairly sure the GT-R's brakes are just fine (never heard of issues with the brakes), but that thing costs something like $115k USD and up so it better.)

370 is hydraulic steering. 400hp crank is pretty attainable n/a. I'd do quality coilovers, wheels and tires, and yes brakes. There not bad for street but when pushed they heat up pretty quick. The base 370 was 29 grand new in canada! Which I think is insane value. It will never be as nimble as a 86 or brz, but I still think they get undue hate. Kinda of like the miata did back in the day. I own a 2011 mx5 and I regularly drive my old man's 370 and I find it quite charming. Just something different.

SavageGeese YouTube video was great, watched it start to finish even though I'm not interested in either car. at least these guys put in some technical info in their videos.

Tronic said:

SavageGeese YouTube video was great, watched it start to finish even though I'm not interested in either car. at least these guys put in some technical info in their videos.

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Yea Mark and Jack of savagegeese are my favorite reviewers on YouTube. Very professional and informative.

Tronic said:

SavageGeese YouTube video was great, watched it start to finish even though I'm not interested in either car. at least these guys put in some technical info in their videos.

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Imo SG are head and shoulders above almost any other channel.

Ironworker842 said:

370 is hydraulic steering. 400hp crank is pretty attainable n/a. I'd do quality coilovers, wheels and tires, and yes brakes. There not bad for street but when pushed they heat up pretty quick. The base 370 was 29 grand new in canada! Which I think is insane value. It will never be as nimble as a 86 or brz, but I still think they get undue hate. Kinda of like the miata did back in the day. I own a 2011 mx5 and I regularly drive my old man's 370 and I find it quite charming. Just something different.

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It's not the steering rack but the steering lock that activates after you exit the car, which is electronic because it has keyless entry and ignition. According to some things I saw it's a common failure (though I'm sure not guaranteed to happen).

That sounds like a great deal! I also think they get undue hate as I mostly like the design, though I've never sat in one so I don't know how all that would feel for me ergonomically. I highly doubt I'd fit in a new ND Miata very well FWIW.

Ok gotcha about the rack. Yea if my dad every wants to parts ways with his, I just might buy it off him. They also sound good with headers, high flow cats, aftermarket mufflers, and long tube 3 Inch intakes. It the straight pipe trumpet gangs that makes em sound like shit.