Same front end as XSE corolla hatch and Oct/Nov release date confirmed by Corporate?

Tokyotexan said:

So takes this for what it's worth. The past few weeks I have been frantically looking for a manual trans premium 2022 GR86 to no avail. I reached out to numerous dealers and left my contact info with them.
One of the dealers reached out to me today and I told that person that I am no longer interested in a GR86 and have instead placed a deposit on a GRC at a local dealer. This was our exchange verbatim.

Dealer:
"What did they estimate your wait time to be? I had heard we won't have the first one until November-ish and I had to call one of our Toyota Corporate trainers to even hear about them because they're not telling Dealerships anything."

Me:
"IDK. Supposedly the car will be released in October barring no delays.
I am the first one on the list at my dealership who put a deposit down on the car, so the first one they get will be mine if I want.
I dont mind waiting, I dont need a new car right now anyways.
Care to share what else the toyota Corporate trainer told you about the car??"

Dealer:
"That he couldn’t tell me anything or he’d have to kill me…uhm.."

Me:
"LMAO... C'mon man. Share something? A little nugget of info wouod be greatly appreciated! Mainly just want to know when they will reveal the car to the public. I hear its soon, especially if they plan on sending them to dealers Oct/nov"

Dealer:
"Expect the same engine and dash configuration as everyone’s talking about. Suspension and AWD he refused to confirm anything but from his tone I’d expect it’s almost a guarantee and it’ll have the same front styling as a high-end corolla hatch"

Me:
"Ahhh... Very good! Im pretty sure it will be AWD. The teaser that Toyota put out on their social media says GR-Four on the side of the camo'd prototype, which basically confirms AWD"

I then showed him a pic of the camo prototype with GR-Four on the side.

Dealer:
"They’re planning to release info in October. Planning is the operative word though. I was told Nov. is the target for having the first ones but he wouldn’t tell me which factory would make it and when production would start. I think if the rollout proceeds the way the Corolla Cross did, though, that we won’t actually get them until about January I worry."

The conversation then shifted to any word on the manual equipped supra, but the dealer did not know anything and said the factory where the supra is being built did not go under any updates or shuffling of production, so thats not a good sign for people hoping for a manual supra in 2023.

Like i said, take it with a grain of salt... The most dissapointing thing I got out of it if what the dealer said was true about corporate spilling some of the beans is the use of the same front bumper as the Corolla hatch, meaning probably no wider front fenders... Still a possibility for front and rear fender flares....

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Tokyotexan said:

So takes this for what it's worth. The past few weeks I have been frantically looking for a manual trans premium 2022 GR86 to no avail. I reached out to numerous dealers and left my contact info with them.
One of the dealers reached out to me today and I told that person that I am no longer interested in a GR86 and have instead placed a deposit on a GRC at a local dealer. This was our exchange verbatim.

Dealer:
"What did they estimate your wait time to be? I had heard we won't have the first one until November-ish and I had to call one of our Toyota Corporate trainers to even hear about them because they're not telling Dealerships anything."

Me:
"IDK. Supposedly the car will be released in October barring no delays.
I am the first one on the list at my dealership who put a deposit down on the car, so the first one they get will be mine if I want.
I dont mind waiting, I dont need a new car right now anyways.
Care to share what else the toyota Corporate trainer told you about the car??"

Dealer:
"That he couldn’t tell me anything or he’d have to kill me…uhm.."

Me:
"LMAO... C'mon man. Share something? A little nugget of info wouod be greatly appreciated! Mainly just want to know when they will reveal the car to the public. I hear its soon, especially if they plan on sending them to dealers Oct/nov"

Dealer:
"Expect the same engine and dash configuration as everyone’s talking about. Suspension and AWD he refused to confirm anything but from his tone I’d expect it’s almost a guarantee and it’ll have the same front styling as a high-end corolla hatch"

Me:
"Ahhh... Very good! Im pretty sure it will be AWD. The teaser that Toyota put out on their social media says GR-Four on the side of the camo'd prototype, which basically confirms AWD"

I then showed him a pic of the camo prototype with GR-Four on the side.

Dealer:
"They’re planning to release info in October. Planning is the operative word though. I was told Nov. is the target for having the first ones but he wouldn’t tell me which factory would make it and when production would start. I think if the rollout proceeds the way the Corolla Cross did, though, that we won’t actually get them until about January I worry."

The conversation then shifted to any word on the manual equipped supra, but the dealer did not know anything and said the factory where the supra is being built did not go under any updates or shuffling of production, so thats not a good sign for people hoping for a manual supra in 2023.

Like i said, take it with a grain of salt... The most dissapointing thing I got out of it if what the dealer said was true about corporate spilling some of the beans is the use of the same front bumper as the Corolla hatch, meaning probably no wider front fenders... Still a possibility for front and rear fender flares....

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luluna said:

I echo this - I drove a cheapo (relatively speaking) and fairly slow first gen Veloster Turbo - no one had seen it before and it looked super aggressive in that era (a decade ago, lol) - I got so much sass. From cops pulling me over for going 35 in a 30, to noise complaints (it wasn't loud - I even measured it compared to other cars...), to random drivers matching my speed on the highway trying to get my attention so they can race me. I just want to get to Costco in peace 😭(pre-pandemic, Costco made up 80% of my drives; I took public transit into the city, lol).

Add 5 years where literal grandmas are in Velosters (typically non-turbo, but some Turbos...because we nod at each other awkwardly, lol), and now no one bats an eye, lol. Yay.

I much prefer a sleeper.

For giggles for those who haven't seen the old Celica ad:

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ArtJDM said:

Also when the new BMW design language came out, I read in an article somewhere that China, who is on the way to becoming the largest car market in the world, really likes giant grills. It's kind of like a status symbol or something.

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ArtJDM said:

I'm guessing it's a cost cutting measure, like most things people see and are like "Why?" Cheaper to have a big flat-black, molded insert than a nice, painted piece. Eventually it becomes normalized all because it saves the company like 10 cents per unit or something.

Also when the new BMW design language came out, I read in an article somewhere that China, who is on the way to becoming the largest car market in the world, really likes giant grills. It's kind of like a status symbol or something.

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