Might as well make a 2-door GRC if rear leg space is the same as an 86. I know I heard some rumors about this somewhere.
If you're in the back of an 86 and the car goes over a bump, you'll hit your head on the glass. Not really related to leg room but gives you a sense of the space back there. That won't happen in a Corolla hatch.So I naturally looked at the rear legroom of a Corolla Hatch, which is 29.9" and then I compared that to my daily driver which is an 86, also 29.9" 🤣.
Anyone have some firsthand experience?
With the seats up or down? I guarantee you can do so in a Corolla hatch with the seats folded.I also can't picture fitting a full set of wheels. I had to strip the trunk out to fit a set of wheels comfortably.
Wheels should be really easy unless the roofline is so low you can't just roll them in or stack two wheels on top of one another once you fold the rear seat down. But seeing the amount of room does give pause for this car as full 'single car garage' car like the Civic Type-R would. It's quite astonishing how much more space the Civic hatchback has.I own a 2019 hatchback. The things that gripe me the most about it is the rear seat room and hatch cargo space. At least with mine I can remove the spare tire to get more cargo, but not the case with the GR with the battery there.
I also can't picture fitting a full set of wheels. I had to strip the trunk out to fit a set of wheels comfortably.
Okay speed racer, gatekeeping much?It's literally the same as the Focus RS I owned. I'm good with it. I'm 6'2" so the seat pan in my RS was all the way back. Seat back was straight vertical, no "gangsta lean". Nobody could sit behind me, not even a child. I'm happy for this too. This is supposed to be a drivers car not a family truckster nor grocery getter. In the RS I called the rear doors access doors. Not carrying adults back there. If that is a need please do us a favor and buy something else.
Speed Racer? Because I’m actually going to take it on track, and drive it aggressively in my local twisties? You know what it was designed to do? Ok then, am I free to call you Grandma’s boy then? I always preferred Racer X to Speed anyhow. He wasn’t rolling around with a chimp.Okay speed racer, gatekeeping much?
Most buyers are going to be dailying this vehicle. Sorry for asking if a four door could... I don't know, fit four people comfortably?
Yeah I get it, I just wasnt too fond of your last comment on your original reply, rubbed me the wrong way.Speed Racer? Because I’m actually going to take it on track, and drive it aggressively in my local twisties? You know what it was designed to do? Ok then, am I free to call you Grandma’s boy then? I always preferred Racer X to Speed anyhow. He wasn’t rolling around with a chimp.
You and everyone else is free to do with your money whatever you want. Nobody is gatekeeping anyone. I stated the truth. The back seat is not going to be some comfortable people/kid/fur baby mover no matter how much you want it to be. It just isn’t. First and foremost it’s supposed to be an AWD Turbo 6MT drivers car. The Corolla is truly a compact car say compared to the modern Impreza/WRX, Civic, etc. The Civic is now the size of an Accord. The problem with all this is everyone is trying to make everything a people mover. With the Corolla best of luck with that. Base model, XSE, GRC, whatever. It’s a small car with rear doors. Can you make it work for short trips for passengers in the back, sure. But it’s not going to be some cozy place to be. Any questions regarding this, get off the internet. Find a local stealer that has a Corolla hatch, new or used. Go sit in it. I did, weeks before I put my deposit down.
If everything is going to be a daily driver type thing there will literally be no affordable drivers cars left on the market whatsoever. I think that is going to happen anyway after this last gen of ICE vehicles for just these reasons.
You may be 6'2 but the average height for men/women is 5'9/5'4 in the U.S. The space is more than plenty for basic duty for someone young whose friends need rides, or a couple with a small family, or even for long trips with someone in the back seat.I stated the truth. The back seat is not going to be some comfortable people/kid/fur baby mover no matter how much you want it to be. It just isn’t. First and foremost it’s supposed to be an AWD Turbo 6MT drivers car. The Corolla is truly a compact car say compared to the modern Impreza/WRX, Civic, etc. The Civic is now the size of an Accord. The problem with all this is everyone is trying to make everything a people mover. With the Corolla best of luck with that. Base model, XSE, GRC, whatever. It’s a small car with rear doors. Can you make it work for short trips for passengers in the back, sure. But it’s not going to be some cozy place to be. Any questions regarding this, get off the internet. Find a local stealer that has a Corolla hatch, new or used. Go sit in it. I did, weeks before I put my deposit down.
In addition to what I had mentioned earlier, forgot to say, since the GRC is a "5 seater", treating it as a 4 seater most of the time like the 86 purports to be, people back there will be a bit more comfortable than someone in an 86 because they can turn their legs to the middle and also put their stuff in the seat next to them.I'm 5'7", space isn't a deal breaker for me but I was expecting it to at least be a considerable upgrade from the 86. It's a four door hatch that's longer than a veloster, figured it would at least have as much room as that.
Rear seats down, of course. The wheels were 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 With 235/35/19 tires. So OD was like 2mm more than 235/40/18. Rear doors don't open wide enough to fit the wheels through so I had to go through the hatch. I didn't want to get my interior dirty or scratched up too.With the seats up or down? I guarantee you can do so in a Corolla hatch with the seats folded.
I wanted the wheels to fit nicely without messing up the interior or damaging the wheels so two wheels on the back seat and two in the trunk. One laid flat with the other reated off the side. Not stacked on top. I'll try see how well I can get my 18x9.5s placed.Wheels should be really easy unless the roofline is so low you can't just roll them in or stack two wheels on top of one another once you fold the rear seat down. But seeing the amount of room does give pause for this car as full 'single car garage' car like the Civic Type-R would. It's quite astonishing how much more space the Civic hatchback has.
I've owned mine for almost 3 years, so I will say the interior space is a lot smaller than what I felt it was when I first bought it.It’s a small car with rear doors. Can you make it work for short trips for passengers in the back, sure. But it’s not going to be some cozy place to be. Any questions regarding this, get off the internet. Find a local stealer that has a Corolla hatch, new or used. Go sit in it. I did, weeks before I put my deposit down.
Surprised it's that small. Figure just a towel/moving blanket on the floor and just bring them in via the hatch and laying them on their side should be easy to fit 4 I would of thought. On their side 235x2 is say 20" tall and the OD is 26.4" so 54" x 27" x 20" rectangular area should fit your wheels off to one side of the car and then put the easy up/anchors, jack, air pump, food/water, oil on the other side/footwells? See someone on Reddit posting the dimensions with the seat down as 38" x 60" so it appears it should be fine? But dimensions vs actually fitting is always different. I knew the car was small but in use might be a fair bit smaller in practical use just because the floor is so high/roof so low relative to other hatchbacks.Rear seats down, of course. The wheels were 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 With 235/35/19 tires. So OD was like 2mm more than 235/40/18. Rear doors don't open wide enough to fit the wheels through so I had to go through the hatch. I didn't want to get my interior dirty or scratched up too.
I wanted the wheels to fit nicely without messing up the interior or damaging the wheels so two wheels on the back seat and two in the trunk. One laid flat with the other reated off the side. Not stacked on top. I'll try see how well I can get my 18x9.5s placed.
I've owned mine for almost 3 years, so I will say the interior space is a lot smaller than what I felt it was when I first bought it.
I agree with this. in the end this is not a true "race car". it is still the same current gen corolla unibody with an upgraded drivetrain and engine. It does have nice performance qualities but I would think it is still meant to be able to daily. It may not be as roomy as a camry(like I am replacing with this) but it will be a good medium of practical and fun. I also was tired of driving a car that feels like a boat. With how many current gen corollas are being used to daily for families I do not see it as a problem and can be made to work. I do have other cars to fulfill other purposes as well though.Isn't the point of the GRC a performance car with some utility? You want a performance car for just driving and not much else, theres the Supra, and for something a bit cheaper with a little more utility the 86. Note that before I inherited the Yaris I'm using as current daily, I dailied my FR-S and used it for work, cycling (even carried two bikes and two riders and gear), play, auto-X. I'll be getting the GRC and it'll be replacing both my FR-S and Yaris. Every time I get into the FR-S I'm reminded how great it is to drive, but I'll move on and hopefully the GR-C will be as good. And be easier to carry more junk, and even maybe carry friends and bikes. We've done bike runs in my friends FiST, three all-mountain bikes, three guys, and all the gear, and a kid seat still installed! Comfy? No, but it beats not doing it at all.
Oh wow! Pure number-wise, I didn't realize how tight the rear seats are going to be. If you're comparing it to a Veloster (Turbo), the Veloster has a little bit more leg room, but a little bit less headroom.Yeah I get it, I just wasnt too fond of your last comment on your original reply, rubbed me the wrong way.
I'm 5'7", space isn't a deal breaker for me but I was expecting it to at least be a considerable upgrade from the 86. It's a four door hatch that's longer than a veloster, figured it would at least have as much room as that.