[landyman71]

Why not the GR86? I have my reasons for wanting the GRC, but I’m curious as to yours. Specifically for the poll, your main reason.

At the end of the day, GRC is still likely pricier than the 86 (but this is not a price thread).

 

[Yoyojoma]

Unreliable Subaru engines ?

 

[Lavish]

I like both cars, if I can't get a GRC the GR86 is next in line. Love the GRC hatch style and space more than the GR86 (with the additional goodies like HP and AWD). At the end of the day if I'm able to get my hands on either or I will be happy. Don't care about GR86's "lack of power" like the haters love to say about the car, both are great vehicles in their respective categories.

 

[elcolombiano]

Actually usuable backseats. I have a puppy. AWD as well. We get plenty good snow in NJ but tbh I learned to drive my regular corolla in the snow pretty good.

 

[Taroroot]

You dont have an option for all of the above!
I have a FRS and everytime i drive it im reminded of how great it is to drive!
but if the GRC lives up to the hype, itll drive just as well.
im a toyota guy so yes, the GRC being all “real” Toyota means a bunch to me. Im also a rally guy so awd means a bunch to me. Moar power though is going to be new to me though. All my previous cars are not powerhouses, the FRS is the most powerfull car ive had so far. And i like hatches. And whats not to love about car pres who loves driving and tells the other execs, dammit, im going to race, here, ill use an alias, are u happy now? Ok, i worked my way to pres now, lets make some cool cars that i want to drive!

 

[underscore]

I like both as well, but I already have a 2 door and I barely get to use it because of that. I need 4 doors.

 

[A91supra]

Why not an 86? Because I have a Supra. Don't need 2 cars that do the same thing. The GRC will be my daily when the Supra is being stored in the winter. Was waiting on the new STI, Subaru decided to be idiots, Toyota made the hatch STI we all want, so here we are.

 

[Jeonsa]

One is a pure bred Toyota, the other is named after a variation of a old Corolla but is built using Impreza dna. Lol.

All jokes aside, I love the GR86/BRZ platform, but with the introduction of the GR Corolla it gives us a fully realized Toyota sports offering. But if you want an affordable RWD platform you have the twins and the Miata.

 

[Tronic]

The GR86 is just an MR2 with less power and been there done that and in the past you needed two cars the practical and the sports car but now with the GR Corolla I will only need one car because it does it all.

Subaru were stupid idiots dropping the new STi they have really pissed off thousands of people but then again I did not want a sedan but for 400hp I probably would have still bough one.

Toyota have smashed the ball out of the park with the new GR Corolla it's everything I wanted in a new car.

I have watched a few YouTube videos of it on the track and its way quicker than my MR2 turbo. The handling and braking is out of sight watch the steering input it's just point and shoot.

 

[luluna]

If the trunk opened like a liftback instead of a tiny baby trunk, it would have been a lot more practical and I could have convinced myself it was a GR Celica.

 

[Goose]

Even though I’m fine doing RWD in the snow (Volvo 240) I’m not too interested in dailying a RWD car in a place where we get 6+ inches of snow fairly regularly in the winter

 

[NA6]

I love that the GRC is purely toyota and that akios passion shines through the car. I live in Southern California so no need for AWD and I have a second car so no need for a 4 door hatchback so it makes this decision a little harder. I'm really stuck between the GR86 and GRC.

 

[grfour86c]

As an frs owner, I'm looking at a GRC because...

AWD for mountain adventures
More cargo space
Four doors
Usable backseat
Way more torque for scootin around town

It's also the first all Toyota sports car in who knows how long. I was really hedging my bets on a next gen sti but uhhh well yeah, everyone knows what happened there.

 

[Love6MT]

2 fold

I have kids, wife, dog.
Also, go skiing and drive in the snow during winter.

AWD family hauler in manual.

 

[Azusa53]

My grandmother has a 2020 86 GT with that TRD Handling package they offered the final year. I've borrowed it on occasion when she wants me to give it a workout and a wash. While I love the handling. brakes, and the powertrain (for me it's enough to not overpower the car [low speed fun am I right hahaha]), its boot is definitely not enough for my weekly grocery runs. It's a bit small and the small opening doesn't help either. I also need backseats to haul kids and friends around. The 86 has 0 legroom behind me when I have the driver's seat in the right spot for me and it doesn't get much better even if I moved up. I also stand at 5'8 I had to bend my torso to fit back there. The GR Corolla seems like a better deal for me as the power and torque advantage along with the AWD and better practicality will leave the 86 in the dust. I will say there is a technology disadvantage also with the new GR86 compared to the GRC too (updated infotainment and safety).

 

[Azusa53]

My grandmother has a 2020 86 GT with that TRD Handling package they offered the final year. I've borrowed it on occasion when she wants me to give it a workout and a wash. While I love the handling. brakes, and the powertrain (for me it's enough to not overpower the car [low speed fun am I right hahaha]), its boot is definitely not enough for my weekly grocery runs. It's a bit small and the small opening doesn't help either. I also need backseats to haul kids and friends around. The 86 has 0 legroom behind me when I have the driver's seat in the right spot for me and it doesn't get much better even if I moved up. I also stand at 5'8 I had to bend my torso to fit back there. The GR Corolla seems like a better deal for me as the power and torque advantage along with the AWD and better practicality will leave the 86 in the dust. I will say there is a technology disadvantage also with the new GR86 compared to the GRC too (updated infotainment and safety).

 

[Dan]

I drive a GR86 now and I have a deposit down for a GR Corolla. I've owned plenty of FWD hot hatches and RWD sports cars, but never any AWD performance cars. Grew up wanting an Evo but with how much they cost now, I'd rather have a modern car with modern car safety/reliability.

 

[Kazie]

I go to road trips and sleep in the cargo space. I'm 5'7" and don't believe GR86's would fit me, while I tried Corolla hatch's and it had enough space. Thus, GRC.

 

[Hazuki_Dojo]

I came dangerously close to buying a GR86 back in November to the point where I was about to walk out the door, go to my local dealership, test drive one they got in, and buy it on the spot pending the test drive wasn't particularly underwhelming. However, what stopped me was I'd already decided I'd need to mod this car a decent amount to make it the car I really wanted it to be, but more than that it's a Subi at the end of the day. I don't hate subis, but they've never been my thing. I've always been partial to Toyotas, Hondas, and to a lesser extent Nissans since the early 2000s, and Subaru has just never clicked with me. I wanted a car engineered and created by one of these companies from the ground up and the GR Corolla (or GR Yaris before it) was the one that checked all the boxes I wanted. I'm sure the GR86 is an incredible car to drive, but it's not a Toyota despite what the badge says. Same with the MK5 Supra. I entertained an FK8 Type R as well, but AWD vs FWD is what sways me towards the Corolla.

 

[Veloist]

I’ll write a more detailed write-up comparing GR86 to GRC but since they’re different physically and in drivetrain, it’s difficult to compare them.

I drove my GRC ~400 miles for a week, then drove the GR86. Off the bat I was shocked how instant turn-in felt. Steering feel & response is pure bliss (and steering feel is slightly less communicative than 1st Gen). Hopping back in the GRC, it still felt very nice too, just had a tad less feel.

It felt nice to sit low again. The seats are nice in the GR86 and makes you feel you’re in sports car! The GRC bolsters aren’t as aggressive, especially for thighs, but it doesn’t feel basic after being in the GR86 either.

I felt the powerband of the GR86 was more forgiving and daily-driver friendly compared to the GRC. The GRC hesitates under 2500 RPM, but the GR86 has better low-end torque and smoother acceleration. On the other hand, GRC has the dramatic pull in the mid-range RPM…which is fun every now and then. Not a bad thing but worth noting…I shift more in the GRC, particularly with downshifting. It likes to live above 2500 (ideally 3k) so I’m constantly keeping revs up but to be fair makes me feel very involved.

The GRC might be more fun because you can do some pulls, but the GR86 isn’t even that far behind…it just doesn’t have a dramatic pull, but in my opinion it’s still rewarding to push in a straight line because it shifts nicely and revs high.

I’ll make a full comparison once I can bring my GRC to the roads I have fun in when I’m driving the GR86.