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May as well start this early for all those in New Zealand to start an owners group chat so you can get in contact with one another.

Just add you name and region details if your lucky enough to get a GR Corolla.

I really liked it in the Toyota MR2 Club in Auckland years ago when we used to meet up for drives in the weekends.

Carl in Tauranga NZ.
 

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I walked into my local Toyota dealership and spoke with the sales manager directly. The current story is, they have no idea how many cars will be allocated to NZ and they suspect it won't be very many. They did suggest that they'll be able to accept orders by the end of this year with deliveries starting midway through 2023.
 

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Hey thanks for the link. Not interested in the Morizo anyway it's pointless in my opinion but it will put that added availability pressure on the Circuit Edition.

Already been on that wait list for months now. Really only waiting for pricing now but more importantly how many we are scheduled to get here and when because I'm not waiting until 2024 for one.
 

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Hey thanks for the link. Not interested in the Morizo anyway it's pointless in my opinion but it will put that added availability pressure on the Circuit Edition.
It made zero sense to import a special for a model that is only going to be a low volume import itself. I suspect we will see ex JDM Morizo's in NZ in a few years time in any case.
 

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It made zero sense to import a special for a model that is only going to be a low volume import itself. I suspect we will see ex JDM Morizo's in NZ in a few years time in any case.
This is one of the reasons why I think NZ will only see one model and like the GRY, it will be a good spec in the GRC case, equivalent to the circuit edition & like Australia - see the report from Chasing Cars - ONLY ONE SPEC FOR AUSTRALIA?
 

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I don't think we will be disappointed here in NZ with the number of cars coming in. If you got your name down a few months ago now and can front with the money you will get the opportunity to buy one.
 

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This is one of the reasons why I think NZ will only see one model and like the GRY, it will be a good spec in the GRC case, equivalent to the circuit edition & like Australia - see the report from Chasing Cars - ONLY ONE SPEC FOR AUSTRALIA?
Sure did. I think Australia will be lucky to see 500 cars in their market, maybe 1000 but with a forecast annual production of 6000 units globally I doubt it will be that many. So if Australia were only to get say, 100 cars, NZ is looking at 10.
 

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Its more the breakdown of numbers in the different categories that matters, not overall numbers. We still don't know if we are even getting the Circuit Edition let alone how many. I happen to know how many in total NZ is shooting for but that still doesn't really help me. Just a guess but if we do get the CE we will get at least 20, the Subaru STi Saigo received 20 here and all pre-sold no problem. Toyota can only sell a car once so numbers will get directed to where there are guaranteed sales on pre-orders.

Not going to be disappointed if we do not get the CE and only get a fully loaded NZ Spec Core version. Probably more worried about the colour choice to be honest.

I fully expect Toyota here to start actually qualifying potential buyers and get rid of the tire kickers when we get a demo car to look at.
 

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We have a bit more information on the new 2023 GR Corolla now based on the new upcoming 2023 Corolla.

Hopefully the new GR Corolla here will come with this sort of multi-information display as an option. I prefer just the traditional gauge display for sure like shown.

JBL looks like its here on some models as well as the nice leather seats in just the standard Corollas.

 

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Well all I can say is anyone considering a GRC should also take a test drive of a Hyundai i30N Series II.

I'm not going to say any more than that really, you can make up your own mind.
I test drove a Series 1 back in 2019. I really wanted to like that car but there were several things I didn't like that would have pissed me off over time if I had bought one. Besides, I am firmly in the AWD > FWD camp and I ain't going anywhere.
 

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I test drove a Series 1 back in 2019. I really wanted to like that car but there were several things I didn't like that would have pissed me off over time if I had bought one. Besides, I am firmly in the AWD > FWD camp and I ain't going anywhere.
I would be interested to know what pissed you off to be honest. I didn't do a very long test drive but typically I find I don't need to.Even at 50km/hr you can flick it about and just do a high speed roundabout for a few laps.

Yeah I understand where you are coming from because as its been pointed out on here several times already that I wouldn't even look at a FWD car, let alone test drive one.

The issue in New Zealand now is that if you want to buy a NEW car in a MANUAL then you are really limited. If you further limit that choice to AWD only then you are really screwed.

So basically its the WRX and whatever the GR Corolla turns out to be, can you think of anything else performance car wise ? You have to leap up into a Porsche but I want something practical and if I really want to scare myself and hit supercar level acceleration I just get on the bike.
 

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Lets look at the local NZ pricing based on the current USD.

Core $58,995

Circuit $69,995

Morizo $81,995

That's pricing rounded to nice "995" numbers to look better and to arrive at typical dealer type pricing.. If you factor in that cars seem to be comparatively "Cheaper" in the USA I would expect these to be minimums and also if you factor in any possible Hype as well then the pricing only goes one way.

By the way you will need to ADD the clean car discount because it will not be a discount. The i30N is another $2070 because we get slapped with that so add another $2K at least to all of the above plus the on road cost. Its starting to look pretty ugly for the spec of the car.

The CORE will be an identical price to the i30N in the 6MT, its a total no contest I'm afraid, all the hype in the world only goes so far.

The Morizo is up in Honda Type R territory and is more than the new Golf R in a DSG gearbox.
 

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Lets look at the local NZ pricing based on the current USD.

Core $58,995

Circuit $69,995

Morizo $81,995

That's pricing rounded to nice "995" numbers to look better and to arrive at typical dealer type pricing.. If you factor in that cars seem to be comparatively "Cheaper" in the USA I would expect these to be minimums and also if you factor in any possible Hype as well then the pricing only goes one way.

By the way you will need to ADD the clean car discount because it will not be a discount. The i30N is another $2070 because we get slapped with that so add another $2K at least to all of the above plus the on road cost. Its starting to look pretty ugly for the spec of the car.

The CORE will be an identical price to the i30N in the 6MT, its a total no contest I'm afraid, all the hype in the world only goes so far.

The Morizo is up in Honda Type R territory and is more than the new Golf R in a DSG gearbox.
I would be surprised if NZ pricing is based on the US prices. Local factors will play a big role in setting NZ prices.

FWIW on introduction, the UK price for the GR Yaris circuit edition was £33495. NZ had a better specification car for about £27000 using the currency rates as they were at the time.
 

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I would be interested to know what pissed you off to be honest. I didn't do a very long test drive but typically I find I don't need to.Even at 50km/hr you can flick it about and just do a high speed roundabout for a few laps.
This is a Toyota GR forum and not a Hyundai forum so I will keep it brief:
  • The seats were out of the standard i30 - I know because we owned an i30 wagon at the time. They were (the new car's seats are much better I freely admit) really firm and put my ass to sleep after 10 minutes behind the wheel.
  • If you dump the clutch in a standing start if the road is wet you get serious axle tramping. It's something they still haven't quite engineered out with the Series 2 but in the Series 1 it was really bad.
  • Having to switch the car to N Custom mode EVERY time you start the car would get tedious fast. It should remember what mode it was in - yes I know it's like one button to press but thats one too many IMO.
I liked
  • In the dry it was easily faster than my Mazda 6 MPS and cornered better - but that's 10 years of technology advancement for you
  • The infotainment system is one of the better ones on the market, particularly at it's price point
  • I love the looks - the perfect blend of sleeper and hot hatch.

Yeah I understand where you are coming from because as its been pointed out on here several times already that I wouldn't even look at a FWD car, let alone test drive one.

The issue in New Zealand now is that if you want to buy a NEW car in a MANUAL then you are really limited. If you further limit that choice to AWD only then you are really screwed.

So basically its the WRX and whatever the GR Corolla turns out to be, can you think of anything else performance car wise ? You have to leap up into a Porsche but I want something practical and if I really want to scare myself and hit supercar level acceleration I just get on the bike.
When Toyota announced the GRY I thought it was the second coming. The GRC is just the cherry on top. Back then the ONLY cars available in manual and AWD were the WRX and Focus RS - it's funny because in 2019 I could have bought a 20 month old Focus RS for less than a 4 year old one costs right now. I know you don't like Fords but that car even in stock form was insanely fast, on windy roads I believe it be more than capable of keeping up with cars having 3-4 times the price tag. It's biggest problem is that it is too focused (pun intended) on being a track car to be useful as a daily.
 

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I would be surprised if NZ pricing is based on the US prices. Local factors will play a big role in setting NZ prices.

FWIW on introduction, the UK price for the GR Yaris circuit edition was £33495. NZ had a better specification car for about £27000 using the currency rates as they were at the time.
I really wouldn't want to bring pounds into it, Far more likely the cost price is in USD to us. Not sure how you run those calcs the GR Yaris price is still up on Autocar its $60,290.

All sorts of GR stuff on there and its a mess, so we are getting whacked for the manual GR Supra manual $2242K clean car and not the auto ? That makes the Manual MORE expensive than the auto ?

 

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I really wouldn't want to bring pounds into it, Far more likely the cost price is in USD to us. Not sure how you run those calcs the GR Yaris price is still up on Autocar its $60,290.

All sorts of GR stuff on there and its a mess, so we are getting whacked for the manual GR Supra manual $2242K clean car and not the auto ? That makes the Manual MORE expensive than the auto ?

GR Yaris price on launch in NZ was $54990 - Toyota confirms another 100 GR Yaris for NZ showrooms
 

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Thanks for the feedback MightyMaloo.

I don't think any of those problems are going to affect me, I never dump the clutch for starters. You can swap out the seats for the Australian version, they are full on bucket racing seats but they are not electric and I did think about it but you are essentially downgrading the car as far as a few things go if you think hard about it and the cost is the same. The only other option is a sunroof, I'm going to pass on that as well due to cost, it structurally weakens the roof, can leak and it adds weight.

What I really like about it is the design of basically everything. You really need to delve into the spec and the engineering.
 

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Article is 10 December 2021, the price has clearly changed. I don't see any reason the Core will come in at any less than $58,995 I guess we only need to wait a matter of weeks to find out.

If its lucky it may not get hit with a $2k clean car "Discount". This looks a bit random.

The fact that sellers are now trying to get $70K to $80K on Trade-Me is NOT going to go unnoticed by Toyota NZ and that's really NOT going to help the new car pricing structure either.
 
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