Manual GR Supra announced via official gazoo racing instagram post?

Nice 😊

Do you all think the GRC's sales will be affected by the manual supra? They just confirmed it on toyota usa's facebook page and the official gazoo racing instagram page

It's about time! I wonder how many MKV Supra owners are punching the air now?

Depends on the price, lol. If the GRC Core Grade is close to the price of the Supra... I can see people spending a bit more for one if on the fence between the two. I imagine the majority of people who are active here are probably pretty committed to the GRC though.

official on twitter now as well, looks like it's definitely happening!

David said:

Do you all think the GRC's sales will be affected by the manual supra? They just confirmed it on toyota usa's facebook page and the official gazoo racing instagram page

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I think it'll affect current MKV owners who love their MKV but wished it was a manual more then potential GRC buyers. The Supra is in a different price point then the GRC too.

I’m really curious how the market for the GR Corolla differs from that of the manual supra.

For me, I prefer the GRC because I’m a big rally fan and I love a hot hatch. But for 10-15k more (based on guesses), how many people would prefer a manual supra?

personally I hope it takes some of the hype off of the GRC

landyman71 said:

I’m really curious how the market for the GR Corolla differs from that of the manual supra.

For me, I prefer the GRC because I’m a big rally fan and I love a hot hatch. But for 10-15k more (based on guesses), how many people would prefer a manual supra?

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I'm having this debate now. I can afford both, but not sure which I would choose. The Supra is a sexy ass car. It's super gorgeous in person, fun little two seater sports car that now has a proper transmission (for my tastes). GRC is way more suited to daily imo. Supra is hampered in some eyes as it's not 100% toyota, I think those who feel that way love the GRC for that reason.

landyman71 said:

I’m really curious how the market for the GR Corolla differs from that of the manual supra.

For me, I prefer the GRC because I’m a big rally fan and I love a hot hatch. But for 10-15k more (based on guesses), how many people would prefer a manual supra?

personally I hope it takes some of the hype off of the GRC

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I'm with you in preferring a GRC, partially because of what you mentioned, but mostly cause it's probably a far better daily. 4-doors, a hatch for storage space (or dog space in my case) and better MPG while still being fun to drive.

DesmoSD said:

It's about time! I wonder how many MKV Supra owners are punching the air now?

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I’m def not. No matter the “purity” of a manual for some people it won’t be as fast as the zf Supra. Since my car is a daily in shit traffic and a weekend drag strip car I don’t really care. I’m making an exception for a manual with the GRC for the year round usage of it.

landyman71 said:

I’m really curious how the market for the GR Corolla differs from that of the manual supra.

For me, I prefer the GRC because I’m a big rally fan and I love a hot hatch. But for 10-15k more (based on guesses), how many people would prefer a manual supra?

personally I hope it takes some of the hype off of the GRC

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I like the Supra but having done the FR-S with a family already, I'm not inclined to get another 2 door. It isn't that the 3 of us couldn't fit in the FR-S, it was just that we always grabbed the keys to one of the other cars when it was the whole family because of path of least resistance. That situation would be exacerbated with the 2 seater Supra and I'd resent that the only time I drove it was my commute. Being able to take a weekend trip with the wife and kiddo in the Corolla is going to be a big plus for me.

Plus something like a Supra looks way to flashy around here. I'll just look like a 40 year old toolbag driving a hopped up sport compact instead.

DesmoSD said:

I think it'll affect current MKV owners who love their MKV but wished it was a manual more then potential GRC buyers. The Supra is in a different price point then the GRC too.

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If they're putting it in the 2.0 I could see some potential GRC buyers going that route, it's not an expensive car.

ccrook06 said:

If they're putting it in the 2.0 I could see some potential GRC buyers going that route, it's not an expensive car.

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That would be hilarious because the b48 only makes 250ish hp and still has a curb weight of nearly the same as the GRC if that is correctly told

Cptnslo said:

That would be hilarious because the b48 only makes 250ish hp and still has a curb weight of nearly the same as the GRC if that is correctly told

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It's true. Honestly the more I think about it the more I expect them to just put the manual in the 3.0. Buy the GR86 if you want a 200+ hp manual lol

Woohoo!! SAVE THE MANUALS!

ccrook06 said:

If they're putting it in the 2.0 I could see some potential GRC buyers going that route, it's not an expensive car.

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That 6 cylinder is really a gem though. Sounds great, gets shockingly good fuel economy, and apparently Toyota really worked their magic on it to make it more reliable. I thought long and hard about stretching my budget and custom ordering a new M240i, which has the same engine in it, but decided against it because we can’t really make a coupe work and it wound up being more than I should be spending.

The 4 popper in that car would be a hard sell for me personally…if anything I think it’ll go the other way and potential 4 cylinder Supra buyers will gravitate towards the GRC as it should deliver similar performance in a much more usable package for most people. If the GRC is a success it wouldn’t surprise me if they phase the 4 cylinder Supra out altogether. I also think that the core GRC is going to undercut the Supra in price, as it wouldn’t make a ton of sense for Toyota to make it cost the same amount as the base version of what’s essentially their halo car.

Honestly thinking about picking up a 3.0 at the end of the year, it's a great little car especially with a manual added to it. I always viewed the 2.0 as the tuner friendly version of the Supra. Not that the 3.0 isn't but if I wanted to really make it my own I see value in spending less on the car and more on aftermarket goodies.

And I agree, GRC should fall right in the middle of the GR86 and 2.0. It's nice having so many awesome options from Toyota, we're very blessed lol

I'm wondering if it'll get the newer engine as well. Definitely interested. Damn thing is fast and all it was missing was the engagement factor of a 6MT.