Sadly don't think we'll know until pricing is out since that is when Canadian dealers will give you options for "ordering"Yeah I understand that haha, just meant in the sense of whether or not there has been any clearing up on the Canadian specs if they only offer one option here!
Hard to say, ADM is legal in Canada as long as it is shown in the advertisement. Small individual dealers likely won't charge ADM but I expect the corporate multi brands one will take advantage of ADM for rare opportunities like these.all we know is no adm :]
What are the odds, U.S. pricing would come out sooner?I was recently invited to a Toyota Canada marketing event where they showcased the car, and do not fret; The reason why the package won't be available in Canada is because the LSDs will be standard equipment (as well as the JBL sound system). It's a bit strange since it turns the Circuit Edition into a mild appearance package, but it is what it is. I was told we would get pricing in october, and that the cars would get delivered starting December, with a real launch at the Montreal Auto Show in January.
Where are you in Canada to have ADM added on new cars? Can't say for everywhere in Canada since consumer laws are provincial, but at least in Ontario and Quebec they can't sell a car at a different price from advertised. Advertisements are pretty much always advertised at MSRP.About my ADM comment, looks like dealers have been adding ADM into many highly demanded EVs like Toyota Prime lines and Hyundai Ionic 5 since the shortages of cars. I would not be surprised if ADM are tacked on the final delivery price for a model that each dealer may only get no more than one.
My friend who just took a delivery of a Soul EV said a few shady Hyundai dealers are adding as much as $5000 ADM and $500 non-refundable deposit on in stock Ionic and other Kia family of EVs. Obviously my friend took back the deposit at the shady ones and got the car at another honest dealer who sold it at MSRP.
I totally understand the rarity of this car, however ADM/mandatory trade-in BS does not sit well with me. I urge you guys to only consider dealers that are selling at MSRP w/ no other conditions (they do exist). This type of sales behavior by taking advantage of the market should not even be encouraged (or legal), just many people are selfish and dealerships took advantage of. At the end of the day, this is just a car.
I have communicated with Toyota Canada about dealer's practice in the past. Sadly, what they told me was that they have no influences on how dealers conduct their business. They cannot interfere with transactions between end customer and the dealers. Their dealers are free to set prices and fees as long as it's legal in the trading region.Where are you in Canada to have ADM added on new cars? Can't say for everywhere in Canada since consumer laws are provincial, but at least in Ontario and Quebec they can't sell a car at a different price from advertised. Advertisements are pretty much always advertised at MSRP.
Theres other ways dealerships will get around this though, by either making certain accessories or options "mandatory" on the car. For example, they'll put a tint on the car that typically costs $500 but charge you an extra $1000 instead as their "price" for that already installed tint option.
Or it'll be a barely used car with 500km that they can choose to sell at whatever price they decide to advertise it at.
This is very incorrect.More bad news today. A sales manager at a major GTA dealership I talked to this afternoon told me he has heard directly from Toyota Canada that there will be no Circuit editions sold in this country, Cores only. And he does not know if there will be Performance Pack option availability.