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Thanks Pester and Devarenacn. I'm in Greenville and shopping for a 2023 Prius, don't hate. The Greenville NC Toyota Stealership wants 2500 over msrp and the usual bs add ons are non negotiable. I'll give Fred Anderson a call when I get back home from skiing.

Thanks again.

So funny enough, I talked to Fred Anderson last week (as they're the one that I worked with most frequently), they are putting their foot down on the accessories ($799 now, used to be 1599).

I wouldn't bother with Apex, deal with them in the past few years, and the sales manager will pretty much lie to your face, telling me the "Toyota added in those protection package (that doesn't show on the option list"
 

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Thanks Pester and Devarenacn. I'm in Greenville and shopping for a 2023 Prius, don't hate. The Greenville NC Toyota Stealership wants 2500 over msrp and the usual bs add ons are non negotiable. I'll give Fred Anderson a call when I get back home from skiing.

Thanks again.
So what I've found that helps is straight up laughing at salesmen and leaving without saying a word just laughing the whole way out. If you can make a salesman feel awkward, you did your job. Now look for another dealer.

Also, at this point, for a prius, I'd just mass email multiple dealers and ask for their OTD price. The ones that actually give you one are worth talking to. The ones that start asking about financing, etc are probably not.
 

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Just got back from Fred Haas Toyota World of Houston, Texas. They wanted $30k ADM for their GR Corolla. Salesman was straight about it being their intention for any later allocations. Fastest deal fall through ever.

Mike Calvert Toyota in Houston as well is doing about $15k ADM, salesman was upfront that it was pretty crazy for a Corolla, since he's been watching the GR too.
 

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Just got back from Fred Haas Toyota World of Houston, Texas. They wanted $30k ADM for their GR Corolla. Salesman was straight about it being their intention for any later allocations. Fastest deal fall through ever.

Mike Calvert Toyota in Houston as well is doing about $15k ADM, salesman was upfront that it was pretty crazy for a Corolla, since he's been watching the GR too.
$70k for a GR Corolla. That has to be the record so far, right?
 

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Hey guys. This has become a normal topic of discussion here, so we're starting a thread. Please do your best to keep this thread as on topic as possible so that we can easily manage and update this post.

This will be a list of dealerships that are MSRP only dealers. Meaning they do not charge over MSRP or add any additional markups to their vehicles. If you know of any that aren't already on the list, please reply here and we'll add it to the master list.

For a sortable list, @JTBros has created a Google Doc to help keep track! We'll keep it up to date in both places, so that folks who don't want to use their gmail account can still have somewhere to see this list.


MSRP only Dealers

StateDealerPriceAmountFeesNotes
AlabamaHoover ToyotaMSRP
AlabamaToyota of DothanMSRP
AlabamaSand Mountain ToyotaMSRP$1000 ADM for out of state; $500 deposit
ArizonaAvondale ToyotaMSRP
ArizonaAlexander ToyotaMSRP
ArizonaPrecision Toyota AZMSRP
CaliforniaEl Monte Longo ToyotaMSRP
CaliforniaToyota of El CajonMSRP
CaliforniaToyota VallejoMSRP
CaliforniaWalnut Creek ToyotaMSRP
CaliforniaCrown ToyotaMSRP
CaliforniaElk Grove ToyotaMSRP
CaliforniaLongo ToyotaMSRP
CaliforniaOne ToyotaMSRP
CaliforniaRedwood City ToyotaMSRPWill take $1k deposit
CaliforniaSunnyvale ToyotaMSRP
CaliforniaToyota 101MSRPMust live in San Mateo County
ColoradoToyota of Colorado SpringsMSRP
ConnecticutA-1 ToyotaMSRPgzshadowv contact point, waitlist full
ConnecticutGreentree Toyota DanburyMSRP$987 mandatory fee
GeorgiaToyota Autonation Mall of GeorgiaMSRP
IdahoPeterson ToyotaMSRP
IdahoPhil Meador ToyotaMSRPPossible protection package
IdahoRoger's ToyotaMSRP
IllinoisPauly ToyotaMSRP
IllinoisSt Charles ToyotaMSRP
IllinoisAutonation Toyota LibertyvilleMSRPWilling to accept deposit, commitment to MSRP is tentative
KentuckyToyota SouthMSRP
MarylandFitzgerald ToyotaMSRP695Taking refundable deposits of $500
MarylandHeritage CatonsvilleMSRP
MarylandHeritage ToyotaMSRP
MassachusettsKoch Rt 2 ToyotaMSRP
MassachusettsWatertown ToyotaMSRP
MichiganFox Toyota of CadillacMSRP
MinnesotaDahl ToyotaMSRPTaking deposits
MinnesotaKolar ToyotaMSRP
MinnesotaLuther Brookdale ToyotaMSRP
MinnesotaMaple wood ToyotaMSRP
MinnesotaMaplewood ToyotaMSRP
MinnesotaRudy Luther ToyotaMSRP
MinnesotaInver Grove ToyotaMSRP
MissouriMolle ToyotaMSRP
MissouriLou Fousz ToyotaMSRP
NebraskaBaxter Toyota LavistaMSRP
NebraskaErnst ToyotaMSRP
NebraskaBaxter ToyotaMSRP
New JerseyToyota HolmanMSRP
New YorkNorthtown ToyotaMSRP
New YorkWest Herr ToyotaMSRP
New YorkWest Herr Toyota of Orchard ParkMSRP
New YorkWest Herr Toyota of WilliamsvilleMSRP
New YorkRomeo ToyotaMSRP
North CarolinaFred Anderson ToyotaMSRPTaking deposits
North CarolinaHendrick Toyota ApexMSRP1000 non refundable deposit
North CarolinaLeith ToyotaMSRPTaking deposits
OhioGanley Toyota of BedfordMSRPAdd on protection package of ceramic coating and mats
OhioMetro ToyotaMSRPHave waitlist
PennsylvaniaCiocca ToyotaMSRP
PennsylvaniaBennett Toyota of AllentownMSRP$895 fee added on + $422 processing feeADM of $2k for non local tri-state; $5k for outside tri state non local
PennsylvaniaBrewer ToyotaMSRP
PennsylvaniaFaulkner ToyotaMSRP
PennsylvaniaNorth Hills Toyota PittsurghMSRP
PennsylvaniaPerformance ToyotaMSRP
PennsylvaniaRohrich ToyotaMSRP
PennsylvaniaSouth Hills ToyotaMSRP
PennsylvaniaTeam Toyota LanghorneMSRP
PennsylvaniaTri-County Toyota LimerickMSRP
PennsylvaniaBobby Rahal ToyotaMSRPNo waitlist or deposits
South CarolinaToyota of GreenvilleMSRP
TennesseeJohnson City ToyotaMSRP
TexasStreet ToyotaMSRPTaking $500 deposits
TexasCedar Park ToyotaMSRPDealer add on of $795 for tint and protection
TexasFamily Toyota of ArlingtonMSRP
TexasLone Star ToyotaMSRPMay have add ons, taking $1000 deposits
TexasFamily Burleson ToyotaMSRP
UtahBrent BrownMSRP
UtahMark Miller Toyota Salt Lake CityMSRP
UtahLarry H Miller ToyotaMSRP
VermontHeritage ToyotaMSRPTaking 1000 deposit w/ credit check or $5000 without
VirginiaJack Taylor's Alexandria ToyotaMSRP
VirginiaOurisman Chantilly ToyotaMSRP
WashingtonMarysville ToyotaMSRP
WashingtonToyota of AuburnMSRP
WashingtonToyota of BellinghamMSRP
WashingtonToyota of BurienMSRP150Have waitlist
West VirginiaCMA’s Toyota of MartinsburgMSRP
WisconsinBergstorm Toyota of OshkoshMSRP
WisconsinEast Madison ToyotaMSRP

Dealers with markups

AlabamaEastern Shore ToyotaADM
AlabamaPalmers Toyota SuperstoreADM
AlabamaSpringhill ToyotaADM
CaliforniaCulver City ToyotaADM
CaliforniaDCH Toyota of OxnardADM
CaliforniaDublin ToyotaADM
CaliforniaFrank ToyotaADM6000-8000
CaliforniaFrontier Toyota of ValenciaADM
CaliforniaFuture Toyota of Yuba CityADM
CaliforniaGroppetti Auto GroupADM
CaliforniaHamer Toyota in Mission HillsADM
CaliforniaHanlees Davis ToyotaADM
CaliforniaKearney ToyotaADM5500-9000
CaliforniaKeys Toyota in Van NuysADM
CaliforniaLivermore ToyotaADM
CaliforniaModesto ToyotaADM
CaliforniaMossy ToyotaADM5000-10000
CaliforniaNorth Hollywood ToyotaADM
CaliforniaNorthridge ToyotaADM5000-10000
CaliforniaRoseville ToyotaADM
CaliforniaSan Francisco ToyotaADM
CaliforniaSan Luis ObispoADMOriginally marked as MSRP; YMMV
CaliforniaSimi Valley ToyotaADM
CaliforniaThousand Oaks ToyotaADM
CaliforniaToyota Chula VistaADM5500-8500
CaliforniaToyota of Downtown LAADM
CaliforniaToyota of GlendoraADM
CaliforniaToyota of HollywoodADM
CaliforniaTracy ToyotaADM
CaliforniaVentura ToyotaADM
CaliforniaSalinas ToyotaADM
CaliforniaAuburn ToyotaADM
CaliforniaEnvision Toyota MilpitasADM
CaliforniaFreeway Toyota GilroyADM
CaliforniaMagnussen Toyota Palo AltoADM
CaliforniaPutnam ToyotaADM
CaliforniaSteven's Creek ToyotaADM
CaliforniaToyota of RidgecrestADM
CaliforniaToyota SFADM
CaliforniaVictory ToyotaADM
CaliforniaFremont ToyotaADM9995
ColoradoCorwin ToyotaADM10000
ConnecticutGirard ToyotaADM
ConnecticutHoffman ToyotaADM
ConnecticutToyota of ColchesterADM
ConnecticutToyota of WallingfordADM
ConnecticutStephen ToyotaADM10000+Estimate of ADM based of RAV4 Hybrid pricing
FloridaAutonation ToyotaADM
FloridaBob Tyler ToyotaADM
FloridaEd Morse ToyotaADM
FloridaToyota of Fort Walton BeachADM
FloridaToyota of Hollywood FLADM
FloridaToyota of KendallADM
FloridaWest Kendall ToyotaADM
FloridaStadium ToyotaADM2195ADM will be more for Circuit Edition
FloridaSouthern 441 ToyotaADM10000
FloridaSouthern 441 ToyotaADMTaking 1000 deposit
FloridaToyota Walton BeachADMMust be local & taking 500 deposit
IllinoisLincolnwood ToyotaADM
IllinoisAnderson ToyotaADM5000
IllinoisSchaumberg ToyotaADM2895ADM is add on package
KansasHendrick ToyotaADMADM is dealer add one
KansasLegends ToyotaADM5000
MarylandBayside Toyota of Prince FrederickADM
MarylandKoons Annapolis ToyotaADM
MarylandKoons Easton ToyotaADM10000
MarylandKoons Westminster ToyotaADM
MarylandYounger ToyotaADMADM is only for out of area buyers
MassachusettsKoch Rt 2 ToyotaADM4000
MichiganSuburbanADMDo ADM on specialty vehicles, taking 500 deposit
MinnesotaBurnsville ToyotaADM5000500 non refundable deposit
MissouriAckerman ToyotaADM10000
MissouriBommarito ToyotaADM5000
MissouriCoad ToyotaADM
MissouriPappas ToyotaADM5000
MissouriRolling Hills ToyotaADM
MissouriTwin City ToyotaADM
MissouriWeiss ToyotaADM
MissouriJay Wolfe ToyotaADM1877
MissouriSeeger ToyotaADM5000
MissouriCoad ToyotaADM3000-5000
NebraskaCorwin ToyotaADM
NevadaAutoNation Toyota Las VegasADM5000500Add on fee of $500 for tint, low enough I'm considering MSRP; EDIT: getting mixed reports on this one
NevadaFindlay ToyotaADM10000
New HampshireIra Toyota of ManchesterADM5000
New JerseyDayton ToyotaADM
New JerseyLiberty ToyotaADMTaking 500 deposits
New JerseyPrestige ToyotaADM
New JerseySansone ToyotaADM
New JerseyShore ToyotaADM
New JerseyToyota of HackensackADM
New JerseyRamsey ToyotaADM20,000-25,000 for Circuit
New YorkAtlantic ToyotaADM
New YorkEmpire ToyotaADM
New YorkHillside ToyotaADM
New YorkIsland ToyotaADM
New YorkLia Toyota of ColonieADMBased off charging ADM on GR86
New YorkLia Toyota of RocklandADM3000-5000
New YorkMillenium ToyotaADM
New YorkNew Rochelle ToyotaADM
New YorkPenn ToyotaADM
New YorkRiverhead ToyotaADM
New YorkSmithtown ToyotaADM
New YorkStar ToyotaADM8000
New YorkSunrise ToyotaADM
New YorkSunrise Toyota NorthADM
New YorkToyota CityADM
New YorkToyota of ManhattanADM
New YorkWestbury ToyotaADM
New YorkWestchester ToyotaADM
North CarolinaCox ToyotaADM
North CarolinaFred Anderson Toyota of AshvilleADM
North CarolinaRice ToyotaADM
OhioGreat Lakes ToyotaADM3000
OhioSunnyside ToyotaADM
OhioBrunswick ToyotaADM3000
OregonDamian Lillard ToyotaADM2000-2500Owner is a member of the forum; add on package
OregonToyota of GladstoneADM
PennsylvaniaSloane Toyota of GlensideADM
PennsylvaniaHeritage Toyota HarrisburgADM
PennsylvaniaGlen MillsADMADM may be local vs non
PennsylvaniaKoch 33ADM
PennsylvaniaPeruzzi ToyotaADM5000
PennsylvaniaSloane ToyotaADM
PennsylvaniaSpitzer Toyota of MonroevilleADMNot doing waitlist
PennsylvaniaYork ToyotaADM
PennsylvaniaKen Ganley ToyotaADM5000-6000
TennesseeCool Springs ToyotaADM
TennesseeToyota KnoxvilleADM7500
TexasFred Haas ToyotaADM1400Protection kit is ADM
TexasJoe Myers ToyotaADM
TexasMac Haik ToyotaADM10000
TexasPatt Lobb's Toyota of McKinneyADM12995Have waitlist
TexasToyota of DallasADM5000No deposits
TexasToyota of RichardsonADM
TexasToyota of RockwallADM2000-5000
UtahBountiful ToyotaADM5000
UtahTony DivinoADM3000
UtahBrent Brown ToyotaADM15000
UtahKarl Malone ToyotaADM10000
VirginiaKoons Tyson ToyotaADM
VirginiaToyota BattlefieldADM
WashingtonMichael's ToyotaADM3000Orders closed
WashingtonTacoma ToyotaADM
WashingtonToyota of Lake CityADM
I spoke to Brian at Koch RT2 Toyota (MA) today and he mentioned there would be a markup but did not specify how much

Edit: sorry, I did not see the updated list
 

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Not sure how to update but the Texas dealers - Family Toyota in Arlington and Burleson are not msrp. They require $12-1300 in a protection package. $500 deposit.

Also Street Toyota in Amarillo are not taking deposits and price will tbd.

All of this information is accurate as of today 1/5/2023. Looks like things are changing as these are hitting the ground.
 

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Not sure how to update but the Texas dealers - Family Toyota in Arlington and Burleson are not msrp. They require $12-1300 in a protection package. $500 deposit.

Also Street Toyota in Amarillo are not taking deposits and price will tbd.

All of this information is accurate as of today 1/5/2023. Looks like things are changing as these are hitting the ground.
1200 bucks isn’t bad compared to the majority of what I’m seeing
 

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Been on a "list" for Machens Toyota in Columbia MO since early last year. At first was told they don't typically do mark up. Talked to GM recently as sales was giving me no real info. Not sure it's allocated yet but they said they're only getting one and didn't disclose color, or packages but said they plan on a 15k mark up. Also on a list for Rusty in Jefferson City which as of now haven't heard anything about it at all.
 

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Voss Toyota Beavercreek Ohio is MSRP only, and always! I was an employee there for 32 years before retiring last summer. They're a dealer network in the Dayton Ohio area with seven stores (six manufacturers) in the network. They have a STRICT policy of MSRP only. I don't know about the other stores in the network, but I can tell you that the Toyota store never forces any extras on the deal. They'll certainly try to sell you stuff, but you're never forced to buy anything additional that you don't want. My lengthy tenure didn't get me any deals (yet), but it did get me first right of refusal on the first GRC. The car has been in port more than a week now, so I'm just waiting and watching the tracker. 🙄
 

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This thread is supposed to be a list of MSRP only dealers. There's a separate thread for stealerships. It's right there in the thread title.
It's good to know which dealers need removed from the spreadsheet. It does also need posted in the stealership thread though.
 
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Adding a few notes on Minnesota dealerships I have interacted with. Unfortunately have not asked the ADM question at this point in time

Carlson Toyota - no deposit required, unknown amount on waitlist
Inver Grove Toyota - $500 deposit, 20 people on waitlist
Lake Country Toyota - no deposit required, unknown amount on waitlist
Maplewood Toyota - $1000 deposit, 60 people on waitlist
Mills Toyota - no deposit required, 3 people on waitlist
St Cloud Toyota - $500 deposit, 9 people on waitlist
 

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Adding a dealership and also giving MAJOR f***ing props and respect to McDonald Toyota in Fort Morgan, CO. They initially told me 5K ADM in April 2022 but told me (and provided in writing) that they were changing to MSRP a couple days ago. Where most other dealerships are adding or increasing ADMs just because they can, McDonald decided to do the right thing and go in the opposite direction. While they shouldn't have quoted an ADM to begin with, it takes a lot of integrity to get rid of it when they know people on their waitlist were already expecting it.

For those interested: $1,000 refundable deposit, unknown how many are currently on waitlist. I was #2.
 
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