ISF would like a word.This is super cool. I was hopeful that AT would be available at launch but I’m glad I’m close to the front of the line for an MT.
I’m weary because Toyota ATs have historically been absolute slush boxes, even in the newest more “performance” oriented Lexuses. Just old torque converter laziness.
If they manage to crank out something comparable to a DCT, DSG, or the ZF it would be great but I’m not going to hold my breath. Until then, I’ll drive the MT. If they nail it, I’ll trade in or sell and buy.
Wish this article had more technical info instead of just “wow it’s fun and easy to drive” lol.
Driven them. It’s definitely the best Toyota has to offer but is still behind the modern competition. I understand the Toyota ethos is “don’t run it until we’re absolutely sure it’s bulletproof” but the fast autos have been out for awhile now so I’m hoping this 8spd is Toyotas take on a ZF.ISF would like a word.
Agreed. The transmission was really good when it came out. We need something better for the Corolla.Driven them. It’s definitely the best Toyota has to offer but is still behind the modern competition. I understand the Toyota ethos is “don’t run it until we’re absolutely sure it’s bulletproof” but the fast autos have been out for awhile now so I’m hoping this 8spd is Toyotas take on a ZF.
If we’re lucky Toyota will have copied BMWs homework from the Supra/Z4 twin
It’s weird because you have to be accelerating for fast/smooth shifts, but around town it feels clunky. It adds character but yeah, not as refined.Driven them. It’s definitely the best Toyota has to offer but is still behind the modern competition. I understand the Toyota ethos is “don’t run it until we’re absolutely sure it’s bulletproof” but the fast autos have been out for awhile now so I’m hoping this 8spd is Toyotas take on a ZF.
If we’re lucky Toyota will have copied BMWs homework from the Supra/Z4 twin
I'm with you on this. I don't think an auto GRC is strictly a bad thing. I'd never buy one, but I'd rather have more cars on the market for a better aftermarket than be able to wave the 'exclusivity' card. And this comes from a proud member of the Manual Elitist Jerk facebook page. LolI am one of the few that isn't sentimental about automatic versus manual transmissions. I see the benefit to both. If it produces the lap time, I think it is a great option to have. Modern automatics will almost certainly be faster.
As some stated above, Toyota transmissions typically aren't designed with spirited driving in mind. They aren't bad, but they aren't stellar either.
Before 2010, the automatic transmissions were known for being slush boxes. They improved greatly in the 2010s, but they still struggle in certain situations. Generally my experience is they are great on upshifts and take time to process on downshifts.
That being said, we're talking about fractions of a second. However, that split second lag makes a big difference on shifting feel and driver confidence. I hope Toyota does bring a solid transmission akin to the Porsche's PDK.
Yep I'm going to hell for cracking up at thisThe next page is: DAT (Direct Automatic) can be enjoyed by women and handicapped people, expanding the possibilities
