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What was it like driving your (or another’s) GRC for the first time! Does it live up to your personal hype?
You basically described an Evo lol. Which is a good thing.My expectations were too high, but that's not the car's fault. Imagine an STI, but engineered this decade and not 20 years ago. It doesn't hide its economy car roots, nor does it have a high sense of humor (much more serious/refined than, say, a Fiesta ST), but it still felt very capable/special, thanks to its unique drivetrain. Can't really say much more beyond that after a 5 minute drive in rush hour traffic. I don't think you guys will be disappointed unless you pay a markup.
My biggest takeaway: If Toyota starts selling the GR86 with the G16E instead of the FA24, I would strongly consider buying another.
We get it bro, you live in the UK and get to have the GRY. We don't, so we will take what we can get. Now move along...General impressions of this car now that it's been driven is pretty much nowhere near as exciting or as quick as the GR Yaris.
I know it's a stupid comparison, but I've been waiting for someone to compare it to a 22 86. Can you give some other feedback on the STI though? There is a very wide range between a GD, GR, and VA STI, and I'd love to see someone break down which gen it's closest to.My expectations were too high, but that's not the car's fault. Imagine an STI, but engineered this decade and not 20 years ago. It doesn't hide its economy car roots, nor does it have a high sense of humor (much more serious/refined than, say, a Fiesta ST), but it still felt very capable/special, thanks to its unique drivetrain. Can't really say much more beyond that after a 5 minute drive in rush hour traffic. I don't think you guys will be disappointed unless you pay a markup.
My biggest takeaway: If Toyota starts selling the GR86 with the G16E instead of the FA24, I would strongly consider buying another.
what most people don't get is that it doesn't take much to upset the balance of a car. whether it's rigidity changes or alignment, you can pretty much make the car have whatever "feel" or "playfulness" that you want.We get it bro, you live in the UK and get to have the GRY. We don't, so we will take what we can get. Now move along...
Agreed. I still think coilovers and sway bars will go a long way with this car.what most people don't get is that it doesn't take much to upset the balance of a car. whether it's rigidity changes or alignment, you can pretty much make the car have whatever "feel" or "playfulness" that you want.
People understand, they’re just referencing the “off the showroom floor” dynamics or how the engineers intentionally made the car.what most people don't get is that it doesn't take much to upset the balance of a car. whether it's rigidity changes or alignment, you can pretty much make the car have whatever "feel" or "playfulness" that you want.
Has anyone here driven both the GR Yaris and GRC?General impressions of this car now that it's been driven is pretty much nowhere near as exciting or as quick as the GR Yaris.
I remember my first drive in the EVO X when it came out, and I found it incredible how you could huck it into a cloverleaf and pin it in 2nd and it would just hook up and carve through the turn. Just endless grip. If the GRC behaves that way then I'll be pleased.You basically described an Evo lol. Which is a good thing.
Don't forget Aussies get bothHas anyone here driven both the GR Yaris and GRC?
Watch videos with the Toyota engineers and its been said from beginning that the GRC was designed to be more "mature" and calmer. The very nature of it being a Corolla chassis they said they new they couldn't make it a GR Yaris and didn't try. The Japan comparison videos makes it clear, everyone says the C is great driving, predicatable, easy to drive and direct to what you want to do. Then they jump into the GRY and call it the "thorooughbreed".People understand, they’re just referencing the “off the showroom floor” dynamics or how the engineers intentionally made the car.
The car was never suppose to be a GR Yaris anyways so the disappointment is kinda unwarranted.
Spot on. I’ve always said the biggest issue was marketing, otherwise the GRC is a great car.Watch videos with the Toyota engineers and its been said from beginning that the GRC was designed to be more "mature" and calmer. The very nature of it being a Corolla chassis they said they new they couldn't make it a GR Yaris and didn't try. The Japan comparison videos makes it clear, everyone says the C is great driving, predicatable, easy to drive and direct to what you want to do. Then they jump into the GRY and call it the "thorooughbreed".
Of course you have all the marketing, what do you expect. Especially for the US market, we don't get the GRY so the GRC is martketed how the GRY would be.
The Aussies "core" version is what ours should have been. Bulged vented hood and faux leather/alcantara interior. I can do without the CF roof TBH.Don't forget Aussies get both View attachment 5275
Unfortunately, I don't have enough seat time in either to say much more. I preferred the GRC's lighter clutch and smoother shift action to the one in the STI, but the seating position was a little worse for me. Given the choice between the two, I'd take the GRC every time. The Subaru engine was my least favorite part of my GR86.I know it's a stupid comparison, but I've been waiting for someone to compare it to a 22 86. Can you give some other feedback on the STI though? There is a very wide range between a GD, GR, and VA STI, and I'd love to see someone break down which gen it's closest to.