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I’m from Tampa Florida.
I drive a 2007 MazdaSpeed3, 309hp First owner. 85,000 miles.
I also drive a Tundra for towing my boat and such.

My Project Car is a 2023 GR Corolla with 5 years warranty and as fast as my Mazda. I’m old and want something with some traction That I don’t have to mod. My first new car was a Nissan Sentra SE-R with an SR20DE. 140hp and still the best car I ever owned. I really miss revving for power but those days are gone.

I’ve owned or driven most hot hatches and I love My speed3 but if Toyota gave me full Control of making a new Toyota hot hatch, I think I’d design the GR exactly as it is, maybe lose 200 lbs, add 30hp somewhere? But other then the weight it seems like the perfect car to me. I really hope the press doesn’t over or under praise it. Some of these integra reviews are ridiculousLu one sided. If u pay 9 grand over a civic for that, well I don’t get it And the reviewers seem to think that’s ok.

My big issue with the GR is are we gonna be able to get one at MSRP. I went to my local dealer who knew nothing about it. I don’t want to put money down yet if a core with Tech and Performance pack are gonna be 50k. I don’t think getting the circuit is gonna be possible even close to an option as I’m sure they’ll be over 50.

I am cross shopping with the new Civic Type R but I need to know more before i finalize.

sorry so long.
 

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Hey, you and I are one of a mind. I love the car, but I am not making 100k a year and I am NOT COOL with the markups that someone people seem to be OK with. 1 or 2k is workable in my opinion but when it gets to 5k+ then that is plain insane. With this in mind, I still have the GRC as my first but if I can get it at MSRP or cheaper (costco auto) the Hyundai Elantra N. I will also keep in mind this civic type r but I like Toyotas better.
 

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Welcome! JTBros is doing a fantastic job of keeping his MSRP spreadsheet up to date (way better than I'm doing at keeping the actual posting up to date). So be sure to check that out.

That said, this late into the hype, you'll probably have to wait to get the car regardless. Lots of dealerships already have several people on their waitlist in busier areas of the states.
 
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