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GR86 vs. GR Corolla Heritage

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Ryan

Discussion Starter · Apr 10, 2022

Isn't the GR Corolla more of a direct descendent of the AE86 than the GR86? Toyota marketing is so interesting. The GR branding, and this....Not being critical....just interesting to me....

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DesmoSD

· #18 · Apr 11, 2022

NARFALICIOUS said:
I believe the GRC is more unique. Of course it has direct Corolla lineage since it uses a Corolla chassis, but it is more of a newer Celica GT-Four than anything.

Let's look at the facts:
AE86 - came in coupe or hatch, RWD, lightweight/barebones car, with N/A short stroke and high revving engine with Yamaha design (4A-GE)
FR-S/86/GR86 - coupe only, RWD, lightweight, N/A high revving, square engine - This car's development from the beginning was, fun lightweight rwd sports car and incorporated into its design was a callback or say fan service to the AE86.

Celica GT-Four - hatch, awd, turbo engine with strong internals capable of holding high hp comparable to its size - Created to compete in WRC
GRC - hatch, AWD, turbo engine ( possibly also strong internals capable of holding hp comparable to its size) - Beginning with the GRY was built to compete in WRC

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Spec wise, the GRC is more of a successor to the Celica GT-Four but from a model name, the GR Corolla is successor to the Corolla GT-S (AE86). IMO, it was just the timing from when Toyota announced the Toyota 86 as the successor to the Corolla GT-S based on some of the ingredients of the 86 in similarity to the GT-S; NA engine, 2+2, RWD.

The GRC has taken lineage of both the Corolla name, combined it with the Celica GT-Four specs and bundled it into one. A lot rumors flooded about the return of a Toyota Celica and here we are essentially witnessing it now.

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DesmoSD

· #22 · Apr 11, 2022

Jeonsa said:
Those rumors were more from enthusiasts after Toyota trademarked the Celica name though. Which the Celica always was a sports car/GT car. Toyota did say the Yaris is the spiritual successor though, not the Corolla. (3 door rally car)

I wish we got the Celica over the Supra honestly.

True but it had to spawn from somewhere, primarily from when Toyota filed the application for the Celica name. The same thing when Toyota filed the application for the Supra name but in this case, we did see a Supra model. I'm with you, I have my reservations with the 86 and Supra. I would have loved to see a Toyota Celica built by Toyota return to the showrooms too.

Toyota Files for ‘Celica’ Trademark Again and This Is Really Getting Old, Guys

Just bring it back already. Or don't. One or the other.

www.thedrive.com

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DesmoSD

· #25 · Apr 11, 2022

Jeonsa said:
An AWD sports coupe would’ve been amazing for sure. A lineup of 3 different AWD cars would’ve made an awesome showroom.

Then they'll be missing and even more narrow market. It'll essentially be Subaru 2.0.

Pre said:
I'll volunteer here. Throw the G16 and GR4 with diffs on over into a new Celica coupe, and I'll move my deposit over from the GRC to it and free up a car. If I stack rank ze want, GRY, Celica GT4, GRC. This is a performance car to me so I have no need for the rear doors. 2 or 3 doors is cheaper for me to insure than 4 or 5 doors.

But what would be the Celica chassis since it would have to be shared with another Toyota platform? Perhaps, take the new GR86 chassis, shoe in the G16+GR4, build a similar wide body and aggressive bumpers and call it GR Celica GT-Four.

I'd be down for that in a heartbeat.

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