GR Corolla Review Megathread
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Correct, the Toyota GRanola is strictly for fruits, nuts, and flakes.
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these reviews are getting so repetitive that i'm going to start reviewing the reviews.
can someone try doing some stupid shit in these cars to try to find the limits. maybe switchup some things and see how it affects the car. different tires? stiffer suspension? something? anything? after like the 2nd review of a car, there really needs to be none further. start reviewing how it handles mods. how it handles all the quirky shit and other details that only an actual owner would know
can someone try doing some stupid shit in these cars to try to find the limits. maybe switchup some things and see how it affects the car. different tires? stiffer suspension? something? anything? after like the 2nd review of a car, there really needs to be none further. start reviewing how it handles mods. how it handles all the quirky shit and other details that only an actual owner would know
Agreed. It has almost too much grip for street. I shouldn't have that much confidence to go fast lol. I bet a rear sway install will get you more into Block (RIP) territory.
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Seriously
somebody do us a favor
1. Dive bomb into a corner
2. Brake late
3. Cut the wheel
4. Mash the gas
5. Report the results
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i'm getting my car in a few days. it's driving me crazy that there's so many complaints about the car not oversteering and NOBODY trying to solve it. not even an attempt. i'll do it my fking self
Guys, this is not a difficult thing to make happen. (Oversteer).
First, understand that this will make the car less ‘safe’ and ‘friendly’ to the inexperienced. And most likely slower around a track, especially if you overdo it. But here goes.
1. Super cheap/free mod. We used to do this in stock class autox a long time ago with cars that terminally under steered. Pump up the rear tires to their maximum on the sidewall (often around 50psi). This will really help rotate the car.
2. disconnect the FRONT swaybar end links. Again this will really encourage rotation especially if you lift slightly entering the corner.
3. If you want to spend a little money, increase the size of the REAR swaybar. Again this will increase rotation (and make the car more nervous)
4. get a performance alignment done. Increase front negative camber (try -2.5 to -3 deg). Adjust front toe to either zero or a tiny bit of toe out (1/16” or so toe out). Adjust rear neg camber to zero. Adjust rear toe to near zero (maybe just a tiny bit of toe in for highway stability)
my guess is that if you simply pump the rear tires way up and align it, it’ll start rotating a LOT more for you.
Again, this likely won’t be ‘faster’ doing track days (unless you are highly trained and skilled with lots of experience. I hold SCCA and NASA race licenses and have been racing FWD and RWD cars all over the east coast for 25 yrs). For the average driver, this will take away the ‘safety understeer’ that is cooked into these cars and if you aren’t right on top of it and are bombing around on a country back road you might end up in a tree upside down. Just FYI.
PS. For a bunch of years I was road racing a ‘93 Ford Probe GT in PTE class with NASA in the Mid Atlantic region. That car and I were regional champions (against a slew of SE-Rs and CRXs and Miatas. I was the only Probe!). To get that car to hustle through the corners and not understeer at all, I did: remove front swaybar. Add huge rear swaybar. -3.5 deg front camber. 0 rear camber. Aggressive toe setup. 600 lb/in front springs. 1400 lb/in rear springs with adjustable shocks. That car would rotate like a mofo. But you had to be on top of it every second or you’d crash. But that’s how you get every last inch out of a front wheel drive race car. That is not what you want on the street. Let me tell you!
First, understand that this will make the car less ‘safe’ and ‘friendly’ to the inexperienced. And most likely slower around a track, especially if you overdo it. But here goes.
1. Super cheap/free mod. We used to do this in stock class autox a long time ago with cars that terminally under steered. Pump up the rear tires to their maximum on the sidewall (often around 50psi). This will really help rotate the car.
2. disconnect the FRONT swaybar end links. Again this will really encourage rotation especially if you lift slightly entering the corner.
3. If you want to spend a little money, increase the size of the REAR swaybar. Again this will increase rotation (and make the car more nervous)
4. get a performance alignment done. Increase front negative camber (try -2.5 to -3 deg). Adjust front toe to either zero or a tiny bit of toe out (1/16” or so toe out). Adjust rear neg camber to zero. Adjust rear toe to near zero (maybe just a tiny bit of toe in for highway stability)
my guess is that if you simply pump the rear tires way up and align it, it’ll start rotating a LOT more for you.
Again, this likely won’t be ‘faster’ doing track days (unless you are highly trained and skilled with lots of experience. I hold SCCA and NASA race licenses and have been racing FWD and RWD cars all over the east coast for 25 yrs). For the average driver, this will take away the ‘safety understeer’ that is cooked into these cars and if you aren’t right on top of it and are bombing around on a country back road you might end up in a tree upside down. Just FYI.
PS. For a bunch of years I was road racing a ‘93 Ford Probe GT in PTE class with NASA in the Mid Atlantic region. That car and I were regional champions (against a slew of SE-Rs and CRXs and Miatas. I was the only Probe!). To get that car to hustle through the corners and not understeer at all, I did: remove front swaybar. Add huge rear swaybar. -3.5 deg front camber. 0 rear camber. Aggressive toe setup. 600 lb/in front springs. 1400 lb/in rear springs with adjustable shocks. That car would rotate like a mofo. But you had to be on top of it every second or you’d crash. But that’s how you get every last inch out of a front wheel drive race car. That is not what you want on the street. Let me tell you!
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I've stated this on another forum. in the wet, 30/70 is a lil scary. in the snow especially, the rear end literally kicks out like its my MR2. i have done some angles also, but i cannot for the sake of my life do it with one hand and record with the other haha. its still VERY grippy even with the summer tires. definitely not rwd as much
I thought a short vid might be worth a thousand words. This is what a non-understeering FWD setup looks like when it’s being pushed. This was very early on in development. (might have been first big PTE race for the car). The Probe was on Eibach street springs (no 600/1400 coilovers yet) and Tokico shocks. Had the huge Addco 25mm rear bar with no front bar. Had the full race alignment on it, plus I was running 200tw ‘real street’ tires (Hankook RSII). You got a weight break in those days if you ran street tires instead of R compound. I was running at 2575 lbs. the camera car is Greg Amy. He was the fastest PTE in the country back then. NX2000 fully prepped to extent of the rules. Running on Hoosier R compound. 2400 lbs. he had a mechanical issue in qualifying and had to start quite a ways back. I qualified near the front in PTE. this is mixed class racing and there are other faster classes in this heat (PTD and PTC etc). Most of the race is him trying to pass me for the PTE lead. You’ll get the chance to watch a FWD car set up to NOT understeer. Haven’t watched that vid for a long long time. Damn that Mazda KLDE 2.5 liter V6 would wind out!!!! 😎 My best laptop with that limited setup that weekend was a 2:20.X. Later after the 600/1400 coilovers and full R comps running at 2750 lbs my best laptime there at VIR full was a 2.17.1. Enjoy the vid!
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this guy knows how to oversteer. finally. now someone forward this post to inboxes of every reviewer and person who's ever driven the GRC
once people see this car oversteering, all the stupid complaining and the yaris comparisons and bs will be gone. someone just has to show it doing it in a youtube video and the rest will follow
good to know! when it kicks out, is it easy to catch? is the onset of loss of traction gradual or immediate?
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People have already talked about how to make the car oversteer on here already. Lmao. It’s just no one wants to flick their car around is all.
Also most of the complaints are for the car off the showroom floor/how the engineers designed the car. Which we went over before as well last year.
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i comb these forums like a fuckin seagull for months and i've rarely ever seen anybody talking about how to induce oversteer and make it actually happen. maybe less than 5 times total. and i can't understand how people buy this car and aren't willing to flick the car. thats a different topic tho
and to the latter part, yes, i agree. that makes sense. i don't agree with the sentiment at all but it's true
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Honestly man the search engine for anything before October is pretty bad. Lmao.
but yeah during the first drives everyone was complaining, @gregbo24 and others brought up how you can get the car to oversteer. I get why people were upset but then again they were biting hard on that Toyota USA marketing.
We even made a joke that a majority of people wouldn’t try to flick it around anyways.
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yeah they were. but like, marketing should be hyping a product up. it wasn't wrong marketing technically. it just wasn't correct for the factory factory alignment/car/tires/etc. but it's essentially entirely the same car. was just showing what's possible with the base car. which technically... is true!
i think it's a good idea to make me an oversteer moderator so i can ban people who try driving too straight
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The marketing in japan was way different and actually more “true” to the car. I think that’s the only thing that made the marketing stateside bad.
You’re perfectly fine where you’re at 🤣🤣🤣
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Jeonsa is absolutely right, i still have no guts to send it all the way, it snaps right back to straight as soon as i let off throttle. granted not as crazy as an MR2 would snap, its very catchable. Oversteers that would end up a 180 in my MR2 would be a whiplash back to straight in the corolla.
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You mean you haven't seen the drift video of the GRC yet? It doesn't look too difficult to kick the rear end out. I bet cheap tires will make it a ton of fun.
tinyurl.com/GRCDrift
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The no ads didnt wok 😢
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