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That car is absolutely insane. The amount of downforce that thing can generate from a standstill is staggering. Along with Gordan Murray's T.50, I wonder if fan cars are making a comeback. I have never been opposed to electric cars. I simply want one that doesn't sacrifice driving dynamics and passion. This is probably the first that impressed me because it's not just acceleration.
 

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I have never been opposed to electric cars. I simply want one that doesn't sacrifice driving dynamics and passion.
This is really my stance. That and I love manual transmissions, which will never happen on EVs, since it's useless. My coworker just went from an 09 Civic Si to a 2022 Tesla Model 3. I joked that he went from a car specifically designed to give him all the control, to a car specifically designed to give him no control. He argued for like 15 minutes that he could turn on sport mode, which tightens the steering up, and it had just as much driver engagement as his Civic.

Vaguely-related side story aside. If they ever make a "drivers" EV, I'll be on board.
 

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That car is absolutely insane. The amount of downforce that thing can generate from a standstill is staggering. Along with Gordan Murray's T.50, I wonder if fan cars are making a comeback. I have never been opposed to electric cars. I simply want one that doesn't sacrifice driving dynamics and passion. This is probably the first that impressed me because it's not just acceleration.
Probably the closest us mortals would get to driving a GM T.50 type car now you mention it
 

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Gentleman, motor wine is all we have to look forward to in future cars, that's why we need to really enjoy our last ice powered, manual transmission vehicles.
Which is why I'm picking up a GRC and a Mazda Miata in the next year or so.馃
To me the more analog the better.
I too am trying to decide whether I want the GRC or wait to get a next generation (NE?) Mazda Miata. Super lightweight RWD has always had a soft spot in my driving wants (had a 85 Corolla GTS some time ago). But I also like AWD hatches (had a WRX wagon before too). Don't really need the AWD here in dry southern California. Just taking my time to weigh my options.

If I had my dream garage, I'd fill it with amazing sounding ICE cars. 6 Cylinder: Porsche GT3/GT3RS. V8: Mustang GT350 or Chevy Corvette C8 Z06. V10: Lexus LFA. V12: Ferrari F12 TDF.
 

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Has like 2 tons of downforce sitting still lol, uses fans like Gordon Murray's new cars
It's really a lot more like the Chaparral 2J or Brabham F1 fan car, or the Sucker Vette built for autocross time trials (recently seen here, built several years ago. and super cool: $2000 Challenge: A low-budget racing bonanza )

Gordon Murray's T50 street car at least only uses the fan to create a virtual longtail and stall or unstall the rear diffuser. Though the track-only T50S Niki Lauda looks like it might have true fan aero, with up to 1500kg of downforce. The T50S Niki Lauda is Gordon Murray鈥檚 ultimate track-only supercar

I think the issue for street use, as mentioned in the Hagerty article as well as contemporary complaints about the Brabham fan car, is how much junk the fans pick up and throw everywhere. They basically vacuum everything off the street and throw it into the air. A hazard both to the fans and to any other vehicles and bystanders.
 

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It's really a lot more like the Chaparral 2J or Brabham F1 fan car, or the Sucker Vette built for autocross time trials (recently seen here, built several years ago. and super cool: $2000 Challenge: A low-budget racing bonanza )

Gordon Murray's T50 street car at least only uses the fan to create a virtual longtail and stall or unstall the rear diffuser. Though the track-only T50S Niki Lauda looks like it might have true fan aero, with up to 1500kg of downforce. The T50S Niki Lauda is Gordon Murray鈥檚 ultimate track-only supercar

I think the issue for street use, as mentioned in the Hagerty article as well as contemporary complaints about the Brabham fan car, is how much junk the fans pick up and throw everywhere. They basically vacuum everything off the street and throw it into the air. A hazard both to the fans and to any other vehicles and bystanders.
That makes sense. I always get a kick out of the diffuser on the T50S, I know everything on that car has a crucial function but it's so cartoon looking 馃槀
 
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