I think everyone's goal should be to find a no ADM dealer. I don't expect the used market to provide any deals either, if anything the used market might be worse than a $5-10k ADM especially the first MY. But you're right, only time will tell.
I would definitely pay more for a low mileage GR Yaris than a new Corolla 😄 for certain low production cars I really don't expect them to drop from their current values. They should plateau, but lower mileage Focus RS's are still selling over MSRP 4 yrs after production ended. I really don't expect any GR Corollas to be sitting on lots, unless they're in the showroom marked up $30k 💀The car market makes no sense at all here in New Zealand now either, EVERYONE is now trying to offload their used cars for silly prices that were more than the cost of a new one.
Take the GR Yaris, several have popped up for sale with "As new" crazy low mileage at silly prices but make no mistake they are NOT SELLING because why would you pay more for a 2 door tiny Yaris than a new Corolla ?
There may be a shortage of new cars but like I keep saying the economy is going to tank so hard that new cars will be sitting on the lot. Unless you are desperate because your current car just died just wait 6 months, the whole car market will fall on its face.
I figured as much, that’s why I summarized both. But if it helps: the Z video begins with why he and the Z community were so excited about the car, then gives the story about the guy that loaned out the vintage Z for the commercial and received nothing for his contribution after waiting in line. He argues that Nissan is struggling and needs enthusiasts to build up enthusiasm around the brand, and this behavior of insane dealer markups is throttling enthusiasts from getting the cars that will now go to collectors who will hide them in their garages and not be seen daily. To back up his claims of insane markups and Nissan having sales issues, he then goes to his local lot that is almost devoid of vehicles to sell. Walking up to two SUVs on the lot, he indicates a 5k mark-up on each. And he reiterates his point that the car was marketed as an affordable sports car and dealer markups are killing that notion, while throttling sales to the enthusiasts that Nissan needs the cars to get to, in order to generate future sales for Nissan vehicles.Yeah the GRY is an exception, i would fully expect good examples to go for high money.
Oh and in havent watched the videos, kinda reluctant to. A lot of online stuff can be sensationalised hand wringing to wrangle in the all mighty view count.
Not all dealers care but the fact some people are dumb enough to pay is insane to meSo trolling a dealership for outrageous markups seemed to have worked for this dealership who was charging $90k over MSRP for a new C8 ZO6...
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People act as if depreciation starts from the value you paid with markup 😂😂😂Not all dealers care but the fact some people are dumb enough to pay is insane to me
There’s a reason why the Yaris is getting that kind of marketing.Loads of GR Yaris over here for sale for more than a new one but people are not buying into it and why would you when they are listed for the same price as the new GR Corolla will be or some are still asking more than the price of a new Golf R so forget it.
In 6 months time we will be in the biggest financial meltdown in living memory and ICE car prices will slide into oblivion over the next 10 years.
I have been to the USA a few times, I call it the "Land of Extreme's" . You have the best of things but also all the worst of things. Great if you are a movie star but totally sucks at the other end of the spectrum.The US customer doesn't seem to be as pragmatic as Australians or buyers in the UK. We have some uninformed and irrational consumers unfortunately. Sucks for someone who actually needs a car right now though.