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I also believe the CTR LE was $6k more than the Touring and it basically is the difference between Circuit and Morizo.
I wouldn't go that far. The CTR LE was just the removal of a few minor items to drop weight roughly 50 lb(rear wiper delete, BFD) and the addition of Cup 2 tires. 95% of the performance gains were from switching tire compounds. Basically a puff piece. The Morizo is a much more substantial sub-model.

Well according to that leaked Canadian order form, it lists the CE as having an exterior spoiler as a way to differentiate between the core, but no one has seen it yet. Was told that the one on the preproduction model was unfortunately not going to make it to the production model.
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I wouldn't go that far. The CTR LE was just the removal of a few minor items to drop weight roughly 50 lb(rear wiper delete, BFD) and the addition of Cup 2 tires. 95% of the performance gains were from switching tire compounds. Basically a puff piece. The Morizo is a much more substantial sub-model.



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Found it. Notice it says rear spoiler under the CE options, but doesn't say the same for the core. Also found it interesting that it says exclusive exterior color(s) as in plural, so does this mean that the Canucks get other exclusive CE colors other than Heavy Metal?
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Found it. Notice it says rear spoiler under the CE options, but doesn't say the same for the core. Also found it interesting that it says exclusive exterior color(s) as in plural, so does this mean that the Canucks get other exclusive CE colors other than Heavy Metal? View attachment 2869
could also be fake. notice it says DACTS? lol
 

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Never seen so many Civic Type R for sale in New Zealand, owners are selling up in preparation for the new model.

Currently 18 cars for sale from 2018 onwards.

Expensive and hard to get cars going up for sale in general, credit crunch time is coming.
 

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I own the Yaris in UK, and I've come up against a few of the current gen Type R's on the roads. Going to be honest, Type R is a joke compared to the GR. The Type R can't launch, so it gets left for dead from the lights, it can't handle as well on B roads or on roundabouts, so gets left for dead, and if it's wet, which England always is, it can't do anything.

Corolla is ten times the car.
 

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Yeah a FWD car may be great on a dry road and super smooth surfaces but they suck on our roads as well. All my car accidents have been in FWD cars and there have been plenty over the years. Great for low power cars on a run to the supermarket but if you drive hard no thanks.
 

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I own the Yaris in UK, and I've come up against a few of the current gen Type R's on the roads. Going to be honest, Type R is a joke compared to the GR. The Type R can't launch, so it gets left for dead from the lights, it can't handle as well on B roads or on roundabouts, so gets left for dead, and if it's wet, which England always is, it can't do anything.

Corolla is ten times the car.
We’ll see, the cars launch together pretty soon.
 

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I own the Yaris in UK, and I've come up against a few of the current gen Type R's on the roads. Going to be honest, Type R is a joke compared to the GR. The Type R can't launch, so it gets left for dead from the lights, it can't handle as well on B roads or on roundabouts, so gets left for dead, and if it's wet, which England always is, it can't do anything.

Corolla is ten times the car.
I just find it weird that why aren't AWD cars anymore popular than they currently are in the UK, considering the roads there are almost always cold and wet.
 

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I just find it weird that why aren't AWD cars anymore popular than they currently are in the UK, considering the roads there are almost always cold and wet.
UK roads are not almost always cold and wet. People who live in remote areas might go for an AWD but for the vast majority AWD is not needed and most don't push their cars to anywhere near the limits.
 

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If my relatives in the UK are anything to go by one has the VW V6 Amarok the other has the Land Rover Discovery. They are pretty similar to many countries in that the "SUV" has simply taken over car sales, whether you need 4WD or not is probably not even a consideration, especially when 4WD can add a huge cost to the vehicle, just compare almost identical vehicle's in the 2WD or 4WD option
 

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Autocar NZ has opened up a slot on their price list for the new Type R, lots of blanks but at least its on the new car price list. Looks like we will continue to get the single spec car.

Nothing for the GR Corolla, not even a future fill in the blanks. The more I think about this the more I think we will only get the one car to choose from in our small market unless we combine with Australia.
 

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What does that even mean?
David from AutomotivePress is a former engineer for Toyota and still works with them in ways. Basically said he thinks the Type R (even Elantra N) will be better dynamically then the GRC. Mainly because of how the GRC is built and what Toyota historically does to their models.

It was funny is all. Everyone in the livestream was taken back.
 

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David from AutomotivePress is a former engineer for Toyota and still works with them in ways. Basically said he thinks the Type R (even Elantra N) will be better dynamically then the GRC. Mainly because of how the GRC is built and what Toyota historically does to their models.

It was funny is all. Everyone in the livestream was taken back.
Again, what does that mean? Did he give any specifics? GR has gone through a lot of work on the GRC, it's not like they just took a Corolla off the factory floor, cut out the old engine and hacked in a new drivetrain.
 
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