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I'm glad someone is keeping a spreadsheet, thank you! I already have enough spreadsheets to update on a daily basis with close to 1000 new car orders...

That is close, but not quite. The "claiming" of allocations from a pool is a USA thing. But it is similar,


Factory provides a build list to Toyota Canada National; planned builds for the next production run

National decides on a "fill rate", the percent that they will use to fill Sold Order Requests (what most refer to as "factory orders") (for the year, I believe the estimated fill rate for ALL vehicles is about 50% thru national fulfillment, and 40% thru stock allocation)

National then "fills" the requests with allocations, releasing them to each dealer with the customers name attached (we cannot see these)

The remainder are given to Zones to be released as supplemental/stock allocations

Before these are released, dealers are able to submit a stock allocation request. This shows what zone is expecting to release to the dealer, and dealers can make changes (certain conditions apply). The changes aren't guaranteed, its dependent on another dealer declining the package you are requesting instead.

Zone does consider dealers open sold order requests when generating the stock allocation. But as these are the "leftovers" from National fulfilment it can be a bit out of order, as far as filling orders oldest to newest. I'd say about 85% matches open orders these days.

Once the stock allocation is finalized it is released to dealers as open stock. Dealers link the new stock to open orders, but it also gives them an opportunity to trade, give the allocation to a more "important" customer, (or sell it to a new customer at a markup), etc. These are the allocations that other dealers can see in the dealer trade App. So what I personally do is use the remaining ~15% that doesn't match any orders to try and trade OUT of zone and match orders.


HOWEVER the GRC is a special edition, like TRD Pro. We cannot submit sold order requests.

So the special edition build list goes to National. National breaks it into Zone. Zone decides who gets them and releases it as open stock. These are visible until the dealer links a customers name. So in theory, we should be able to see EVERY GRC allocation (besides morizo), if I am fast enough and can see it on the dealer trade App before the dealer marks it as sold in a customers name.


...And after just checking now, the system is now allowing me to create requests for GRC Core models. But we have been told its a special edition. So now I'm not entirely sure if we will be able to see EVERY allocation. Some may get linked directly. At the start of 2022 we were able to submit requests for TRD Pro and Capstone Tundras, IIRC we had one filled directly, and then receieved the rest as a special edition allocation. If someone is on a waiting list, see if you can get a sold order request number 🤷‍♂️
Hey thanks for this overview. So to summarize:

  • In the case of normal cars, filling sold order requests directly with the customer's name is invisible to other dealerships.
  • The GRC did not allow sold order requests, so all fulfillment was done via the zone system. Which means it is possible (but not guaranteed) to see every car that is allocated.
  • However, it appears that sold order requests are potentially possible for GRC, which means it may be possible for models to be fulfilled invisibly. But there is no guarantee that will happen, or at what rate it may happen.

My question was initially about whether we would be able to see most of the cars allocated within Canada. The answers seems to be a resounding "maybe"! Which is actually extremely helpful information, it means that the dumps you provide should contain most of the inventory. With "should' and "most" doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

And yes, I am keeping track of all known Canadian allocations, and attaching VINs when I know them. If you want access let me know.

Thanks again!
 

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While I'm posting, I might as well provide a summary of what we've had so far for everybody's amusement (still waiting on western provinces to get some... maybe?):

Updated: 2023-01-25T16:30-07
Total Known Allocations in Canada (so far): 95

Allocation by Province (unlisted provinces/territories have had zero):
ProvinceCount
Alberta10
British Columbia13
Manitoba4
New Brunswick5
Newfoundland and Labrador1
Nova Scotia3
Ontario33
Prince Edward Island1
Quebec25


Allocation by Sub-Region (approx 100km drive radius from population centres, does not count outliers):
Sub-RegionCount
AB - Calgary6
AB - Edmonton4
NS - Halifax2
ON - Ottawa5
ON - Toronto25
QC - Montreal17
QC - Quebec City3
BC - Vancouver12
MB - Winnipeg4


By Colour:
ColourCount
Black38
Supersonic Red31
White26


Total Allocations Per Month (so far):
PeriodCount
2022-November18
2022-December27
2023-January44


Best of luck to everybody, including me!

Can this count for BC be right? I am looking back through the data because it seems very low.


Update 4 (2023-01-25T16:30-07): Added BC allocation update, thanks @Rustyoid!
Update 3 (2023-01-24T17:55-07): Removed a car due to new information regarding dealer 53010. Just 1x car allocated here. Thanks @DrDevil87!
Update 2 (2023-01-24T17:25-07): With @st165 additional BC numbers.
Update 1 (2023-01-24T14:10-07): Added Quebec allocations from below.
Initial (2023-01-24T13:15-07): Data up until this post.
 

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Quebec!

Total Vehicles (13)

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TradeVTNDealerModelSuffixColourAPXOrder TypeETA FromETA ToAccessory InstallCityProvince
Trade082029453119 - Sherbrooke ToyotaABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black03U5 - Supersonic Red00STOCK Open2023-03-042023-03-10NoSherbrookeQuebec
Trade082029553013 - Alix ToyotaABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black03U5 - Supersonic Red00STOCK Open2023-03-042023-03-10NoMontrealQuebec
Trade082029653144 - Vimont Toyota LavalABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black03U5 - Supersonic Red00STOCK Open2023-03-042023-03-10NoLavalQuebec
Trade082031253010 - Spinelli ToyotaABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAM - GR Corolla Core/Black0040 - White00STOCK Open2023-03-042023-03-10NoLachineQuebec
Trade082032953140 - Candiac ToyotaABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAM - GR Corolla Core/Black0202 - Black00STOCK Open2023-03-042023-03-10NoCandiacQuebec
Trade082031453142 - Toyota St-EustacheABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAM - GR Corolla Core/Black0040 - White00STOCK Open2023-03-192023-03-25NoSt-EustacheQuebec
Trade082029753069 - Toyota GatineauABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black03U5 - Supersonic Red00STOCK Open2023-03-242023-03-30NoGatineauQuebec
Trade082029853170 - Toyota MagogABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black03U5 - Supersonic Red00STOCK Open2023-03-242023-03-30NoMagogQuebec
Trade082033053124 - Trois-Rivieres ToyotaABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAM - GR Corolla Core/Black0202 - Black00STOCK Open2023-03-242023-03-30NoTrois-RivieresQuebec
Trade082033153187 - Carrefour 40-640 ToyotaABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAM - GR Corolla Core/Black0202 - Black00STOCK Open2023-03-242023-03-30NoCharlemagneQuebec
Trade082033253044 - Toyota St-JeromeABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAM - GR Corolla Core/Black0202 - Black00STOCK Open2023-03-242023-03-30NoMirabelQuebec
Trade082033353189 - Toyota Gabriel Centre-VilleABAAEM - GR Corolla CoreAM - GR Corolla Core/Black0202 - Black00STOCK Open2023-03-242023-03-30NoMontrealQuebec
 

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Well holy shit.
I'm on that last update.
But it's not the color I want FUUUUUUU.

We'll see I guess lol.
Just wrap it. We won't get many options and the colours we get are boring to begin with. Being that red is the spiciest colour and it's still pretty common, wrapping is my route.
 

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While I'm posting, I might as well provide a summary of what we've had so far for everybody's amusement (still waiting on western provinces to get some... maybe?):

Updated: 2023-01-24T14:10-07
Total Known Allocations in Canada (so far): 84

Allocation by Province (unlisted provinces/territories have had zero):
ProvinceCount
Alberta10
British Columbia2
Manitoba4
New Brunswick5
Newfoundland and Labrador1
Nova Scotia3
Ontario33
Prince Edward Island1
Quebec25


Allocation by Sub-Region (approx 100km drive radius from population centres, does not count outliers):
Sub-RegionCount
AB - Calgary6
AB - Edmonton4
NS - Halifax2
ON - Ottawa5
ON - Toronto25
QC - Montreal17
QC - Quebec City3
BC - Vancouver2
MB - Winnipeg4


By Colour:
ColourCount
Black33
Supersonic Red24
White27


Total Allocations Per Month (so far):
PeriodCount
2022-November18
2022-December27
2023-January39


Best of luck to everybody, including me!

Can this count for BC be right? I am looking back through the data because it seems very low.


Update 1 (2023-01-24T14:10-07): Added Quebec allocations from below.
Initial (2023-01-24T13:15-07): Data up until this post.
BC has at least 8, vin checked. i only haven't gotten physical confirmation on 2 of them. the newest one is the surrey white one, and i haven't seen any bc ones for the next 300+ vins. hopefully we get some rustyoid update for western soon :)

01078 richmond toyota 3U5 - sold - photos seen
01116 regency 202 - sold - a friend has seen it in the lot
01122 destination 3U5 - sold - photos seen in forum (raffle one)
01084 Jim pattison NVAN 202 - ??
01118 west coast toyota 202 - sale sheet seen in forum
01114 metro victoria 3U5 - ??
01125 langley 040 - a friend has seen it in the lot
01088 Jim pattison surrey 040 - sold - photos seen in forum
 

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It may be a problem to track ALL the BC allocations as that is where they enter the country. Once they arrive and are processed they may no longer be tradable/routable to other provinces. So they will not show up in a dealer trade search, unless it IS routable to my location. Sometimes allocations are released when they are already moving and being processed. So units heading to any OTHER province, should be visible in a trade search for any other province, as long as you search before the train leaves. But units destined within lower mainland BC area may never be tradable outside, depending on when the allocations are released.

Hopefully that makes sense
 

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It may be a problem to track ALL the BC allocations as that is where they enter the country. Once they arrive and are processed they may no longer be tradable/routable to other provinces. So they will not show up in a dealer trade search, unless it IS routable to my location. Sometimes allocations are released when they are already moving and being processed. So units heading to any OTHER province, should be visible in a trade search for any other province, as long as you search before the train leaves. But units destined within lower mainland BC area may never be tradable outside, depending on when the allocations are released.

Hopefully that makes sense
Yes, after taking another look at these allocations, it appears they are all in transit to Vancouver already. So I believe there were more BC allocations, but they are not re-routable outside the province and will not show up in a dealer search. This is odd, normally vehicles are still re-routable until they reach the processing stage at Vancouver. So I could be wrong. But its very odd to see zero allocations for BC
 

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Yes, after taking another look at these allocations, it appears they are all in transit to Vancouver already. So I believe there were more BC allocations, but they are not re-routable outside the province and will not show up in a dealer search. This is odd, normally vehicles are still re-routable until they reach the processing stage at Vancouver. So I could be wrong. But its very odd to see zero allocations for BC
yeah and the downside is that it takes so long to see the vins on the other side (parts/service pages) that by the time it's visible, it's already either at the dealer or sold. so between me and rustyoid's updates, there's a nice gap in between for BC
 

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BC has at least 8, vin checked. i only haven't gotten physical confirmation on 2 of them. the newest one is the surrey white one, and i haven't seen any bc ones for the next 300+ vins. hopefully we get some rustyoid update for western soon :)

01078 richmond toyota 3U5 - sold - photos seen
01116 regency 202 - sold - a friend has seen it in the lot
01122 destination 3U5 - sold - photos seen in forum (raffle one)
01084 Jim pattison NVAN 202 - ??
01118 west coast toyota 202 - sale sheet seen in forum
01114 metro victoria 3U5 - ??
01125 langley 040 - a friend has seen it in the lot
01088 Jim pattison surrey 040 - sold - photos seen in forum
This is actually excellent information. I have added it to my spreadsheet. It is a bit obnoxious that there are so many dealers called Jim Pattison (even more in Manitoba!), but I think I eventually sorted it all out.

It brings the overall car count up to 91. I'll roll the new stats into the info soon.

Edit: Oops, confusing VTNs and dealership numbers again, don't mine me, lalala.
 

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So I was just having fun with the numbers.

1st chart: Blue is the vin numbers I've so far, Yellow is Astramael's counted allocations.
2nd chart: Based on these numbers so far, out of 800 supposed cars to come in 2023 model year, that's approximately how it's bound to be spread out - sorry Saskatchewan

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This is actually excellent information. I have added it to my spreadsheet. It is a bit obnoxious that there are so many dealers called Jim Pattison (even more in Manitoba!), but I think I eventually sorted it all out.

What I'm still unsure about is that Spinelli Toyota Lachine seems to have a red car and a white car, both with stock number 53010. One per @DrDevil87 and one per @Rustyoid . Not quite sure what to do with this as of yet!

It brings the overall car count up to 89 or 90. I'll roll the new stats into the info soon.

Also it looks like I was wrong about Jackson's Toyota Barrie getting 2x cars. It's the same car twice, stock number 42073. Was in two different dumps interestingly enough. Unclaimed?
42073 and 53010 aren't stock numbers. they're dealer codes. so all that means is that that dealership has got 2
 
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