[Astramael]

I'm glad someone is keeping a spreadsheet, thank you! I already have enough spreadsheets to update on a daily basis with close to 1000 new car orders...

That is close, but not quite. The "claiming" of allocations from a pool is a USA thing. But it is similar,


Factory provides a build list to Toyota Canada National; planned builds for the next production run

National decides on a "fill rate", the percent that they will use to fill Sold Order Requests (what most refer to as "factory orders") (for the year, I believe the estimated fill rate for ALL vehicles is about 50% thru national fulfillment, and 40% thru stock allocation)

National then "fills" the requests with allocations, releasing them to each dealer with the customers name attached (we cannot see these)

The remainder are given to Zones to be released as supplemental/stock allocations

Before these are released, dealers are able to submit a stock allocation request. This shows what zone is expecting to release to the dealer, and dealers can make changes (certain conditions apply). The changes aren't guaranteed, its dependent on another dealer declining the package you are requesting instead.

Zone does consider dealers open sold order requests when generating the stock allocation. But as these are the "leftovers" from National fulfilment it can be a bit out of order, as far as filling orders oldest to newest. I'd say about 85% matches open orders these days.

Once the stock allocation is finalized it is released to dealers as open stock. Dealers link the new stock to open orders, but it also gives them an opportunity to trade, give the allocation to a more "important" customer, (or sell it to a new customer at a markup), etc. These are the allocations that other dealers can see in the dealer trade App. So what I personally do is use the remaining ~15% that doesn't match any orders to try and trade OUT of zone and match orders.


HOWEVER the GRC is a special edition, like TRD Pro. We cannot submit sold order requests.

So the special edition build list goes to National. National breaks it into Zone. Zone decides who gets them and releases it as open stock. These are visible until the dealer links a customers name. So in theory, we should be able to see EVERY GRC allocation (besides morizo), if I am fast enough and can see it on the dealer trade App before the dealer marks it as sold in a customers name.


...And after just checking now, the system is now allowing me to create requests for GRC Core models. But we have been told its a special edition. So now I'm not entirely sure if we will be able to see EVERY allocation. Some may get linked directly. At the start of 2022 we were able to submit requests for TRD Pro and Capstone Tundras, IIRC we had one filled directly, and then receieved the rest as a special edition allocation. If someone is on a waiting list, see if you can get a sold order request number 🤷‍♂️

Hey thanks for this overview. So to summarize:

• In the case of normal cars, filling sold order requests directly with the customer's name is invisible to other dealerships.
• The GRC did not allow sold order requests, so all fulfillment was done via the zone system. Which means it is possible (but not guaranteed) to see every car that is allocated.
• However, it appears that sold order requests are potentially possible for GRC, which means it may be possible for models to be fulfilled invisibly. But there is no guarantee that will happen, or at what rate it may happen.

My question was initially about whether we would be able to see most of the cars allocated within Canada. The answers seems to be a resounding "maybe"! Which is actually extremely helpful information, it means that the dumps you provide should contain most of the inventory. With "should' and "most" doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

And yes, I am keeping track of all known Canadian allocations, and attaching VINs when I know them. If you want access let me know.

Thanks again!

 

[Astramael]

Why do the Supersonic Reds get AR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black and the White and Black GRs get AM - GR Corolla Core/Black?

Anyone know the difference?

Supersonic Red is an extra-cost colour. Believe $250CAD?

 

[Sbidaman]

My dealer just got their first allocation. I am supposed to be first in line and be contacted when allocation comes in. Will stay silent and see how honest my dealer is. And if my first spot does mean first.

 

[Yuros]

@Astramael is your spreadsheet available online? Curious how many out of 800ish cars for 2023 have already been allocated in Canada?

 

[Astramael]

While I'm posting, I might as well provide a summary of what we've had so far for everybody's amusement (still waiting on western provinces to get some... maybe?):

Updated: 2023-01-25T16:30-07
Total Known Allocations in Canada (so far): 95

Allocation by Province (unlisted provinces/territories have had zero):

Province	Count
Alberta	10
British Columbia	13
Manitoba	4
New Brunswick	5
Newfoundland and Labrador	1
Nova Scotia	3
Ontario	33
Prince Edward Island	1
Quebec	25

Allocation by Sub-Region (approx 100km drive radius from population centres, does not count outliers):

Sub-Region	Count
AB - Calgary	6
AB - Edmonton	4
NS - Halifax	2
ON - Ottawa	5
ON - Toronto	25
QC - Montreal	17
QC - Quebec City	3
BC - Vancouver	12
MB - Winnipeg	4

By Colour:

Colour	Count
Black	38
Supersonic Red	31
White	26

Total Allocations Per Month (so far):

Period	Count
2022-November	18
2022-December	27
2023-January	44

Best of luck to everybody, including me!

Can this count for BC be right? I am looking back through the data because it seems very low.


Update 4 (2023-01-25T16:30-07): Added BC allocation update, thanks @Rustyoid!
Update 3 (2023-01-24T17:55-07): Removed a car due to new information regarding dealer 53010. Just 1x car allocated here. Thanks @DrDevil87!
Update 2 (2023-01-24T17:25-07): With @st165 additional BC numbers.
Update 1 (2023-01-24T14:10-07): Added Quebec allocations from below.
Initial (2023-01-24T13:15-07): Data up until this post.

 

[DrDevil87]

Why do the Supersonic Reds get AR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black and the White and Black GRs get AM - GR Corolla Core/Black?

Anyone know the difference?

It's just part of the product code because it's a "premium" paint.
AKA Red costs 255$ more because more coats of paint to apply.

 

[Rustyoid]

Quebec!

Total Vehicles (13)

Export to ExcelSorting

	Trade	VTN	Dealer	Model	Suffix	Colour	APX	Order Type	ETA From	ETA To	Accessory Install	City	Province
	Trade	0820294	53119 - Sherbrooke Toyota	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black	03U5 - Supersonic Red	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-04	2023-03-10	No	Sherbrooke	Quebec
	Trade	0820295	53013 - Alix Toyota	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black	03U5 - Supersonic Red	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-04	2023-03-10	No	Montreal	Quebec
	Trade	0820296	53144 - Vimont Toyota Laval	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black	03U5 - Supersonic Red	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-04	2023-03-10	No	Laval	Quebec
	Trade	0820312	53010 - Spinelli Toyota	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AM - GR Corolla Core/Black	0040 - White	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-04	2023-03-10	No	Lachine	Quebec
	Trade	0820329	53140 - Candiac Toyota	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AM - GR Corolla Core/Black	0202 - Black	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-04	2023-03-10	No	Candiac	Quebec
	Trade	0820314	53142 - Toyota St-Eustache	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AM - GR Corolla Core/Black	0040 - White	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-19	2023-03-25	No	St-Eustache	Quebec
	Trade	0820297	53069 - Toyota Gatineau	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black	03U5 - Supersonic Red	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-24	2023-03-30	No	Gatineau	Quebec
	Trade	0820298	53170 - Toyota Magog	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AR - GR Corolla Core -Premium Colour/Black	03U5 - Supersonic Red	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-24	2023-03-30	No	Magog	Quebec
	Trade	0820330	53124 - Trois-Rivieres Toyota	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AM - GR Corolla Core/Black	0202 - Black	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-24	2023-03-30	No	Trois-Rivieres	Quebec
	Trade	0820331	53187 - Carrefour 40-640 Toyota	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AM - GR Corolla Core/Black	0202 - Black	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-24	2023-03-30	No	Charlemagne	Quebec
	Trade	0820332	53044 - Toyota St-Jerome	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AM - GR Corolla Core/Black	0202 - Black	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-24	2023-03-30	No	Mirabel	Quebec
	Trade	0820333	53189 - Toyota Gabriel Centre-Ville	ABAAEM - GR Corolla Core	AM - GR Corolla Core/Black	0202 - Black	00	STOCK Open	2023-03-24	2023-03-30	No	Montreal	Quebec

 

[DrDevil87]

Well holy shit.
I'm on that last update.
But it's not the color I want FUUUUUUU.

We'll see I guess lol.

 

[Hawt.Hatch]

Well holy shit.
I'm on that last update.
But it's not the color I want FUUUUUUU.

We'll see I guess lol.

Just wrap it. We won't get many options and the colours we get are boring to begin with. Being that red is the spiciest colour and it's still pretty common, wrapping is my route.

 

[DrDevil87]

Look I'm the salesman here.
And I'll tell y'all what I get told by clients.
I gotta convince the wife first.
😂
It's already an expensive car, I don't think I can justify the cost of a wrap.

I still gotta make sure I can actually afford it too. Anyways.

 

[1lowrx]

What color did you want and what are you getting?

 

[Rallydonut]

Finally my dealer got one (Toyota St-Eustache). I'm curious if the guy in front of me will take it or is waiting for a Circuit

 

[st165]

While I'm posting, I might as well provide a summary of what we've had so far for everybody's amusement (still waiting on western provinces to get some... maybe?):

Updated: 2023-01-24T14:10-07
Total Known Allocations in Canada (so far): 84

Allocation by Province (unlisted provinces/territories have had zero):

Province	Count
Alberta	10
British Columbia	2
Manitoba	4
New Brunswick	5
Newfoundland and Labrador	1
Nova Scotia	3
Ontario	33
Prince Edward Island	1
Quebec	25

Allocation by Sub-Region (approx 100km drive radius from population centres, does not count outliers):

Sub-Region	Count
AB - Calgary	6
AB - Edmonton	4
NS - Halifax	2
ON - Ottawa	5
ON - Toronto	25
QC - Montreal	17
QC - Quebec City	3
BC - Vancouver	2
MB - Winnipeg	4

By Colour:

Colour	Count
Black	33
Supersonic Red	24
White	27

Total Allocations Per Month (so far):

Period	Count
2022-November	18
2022-December	27
2023-January	39

Best of luck to everybody, including me!

Can this count for BC be right? I am looking back through the data because it seems very low.


Update 1 (2023-01-24T14:10-07): Added Quebec allocations from below.
Initial (2023-01-24T13:15-07): Data up until this post.

BC has at least 8, vin checked. i only haven't gotten physical confirmation on 2 of them. the newest one is the surrey white one, and i haven't seen any bc ones for the next 300+ vins. hopefully we get some rustyoid update for western soon

01078 richmond toyota 3U5 - sold - photos seen
01116 regency 202 - sold - a friend has seen it in the lot
01122 destination 3U5 - sold - photos seen in forum (raffle one)
01084 Jim pattison NVAN 202 - ??
01118 west coast toyota 202 - sale sheet seen in forum
01114 metro victoria 3U5 - ??
01125 langley 040 - a friend has seen it in the lot
01088 Jim pattison surrey 040 - sold - photos seen in forum

 

[Rustyoid]

It may be a problem to track ALL the BC allocations as that is where they enter the country. Once they arrive and are processed they may no longer be tradable/routable to other provinces. So they will not show up in a dealer trade search, unless it IS routable to my location. Sometimes allocations are released when they are already moving and being processed. So units heading to any OTHER province, should be visible in a trade search for any other province, as long as you search before the train leaves. But units destined within lower mainland BC area may never be tradable outside, depending on when the allocations are released.

Hopefully that makes sense

 

[Rustyoid]

It may be a problem to track ALL the BC allocations as that is where they enter the country. Once they arrive and are processed they may no longer be tradable/routable to other provinces. So they will not show up in a dealer trade search, unless it IS routable to my location. Sometimes allocations are released when they are already moving and being processed. So units heading to any OTHER province, should be visible in a trade search for any other province, as long as you search before the train leaves. But units destined within lower mainland BC area may never be tradable outside, depending on when the allocations are released.

Hopefully that makes sense

Yes, after taking another look at these allocations, it appears they are all in transit to Vancouver already. So I believe there were more BC allocations, but they are not re-routable outside the province and will not show up in a dealer search. This is odd, normally vehicles are still re-routable until they reach the processing stage at Vancouver. So I could be wrong. But its very odd to see zero allocations for BC

 

[st165]

Yes, after taking another look at these allocations, it appears they are all in transit to Vancouver already. So I believe there were more BC allocations, but they are not re-routable outside the province and will not show up in a dealer search. This is odd, normally vehicles are still re-routable until they reach the processing stage at Vancouver. So I could be wrong. But its very odd to see zero allocations for BC

yeah and the downside is that it takes so long to see the vins on the other side (parts/service pages) that by the time it's visible, it's already either at the dealer or sold. so between me and rustyoid's updates, there's a nice gap in between for BC

 

[Astramael]

BC has at least 8, vin checked. i only haven't gotten physical confirmation on 2 of them. the newest one is the surrey white one, and i haven't seen any bc ones for the next 300+ vins. hopefully we get some rustyoid update for western soon

01078 richmond toyota 3U5 - sold - photos seen
01116 regency 202 - sold - a friend has seen it in the lot
01122 destination 3U5 - sold - photos seen in forum (raffle one)
01084 Jim pattison NVAN 202 - ??
01118 west coast toyota 202 - sale sheet seen in forum
01114 metro victoria 3U5 - ??
01125 langley 040 - a friend has seen it in the lot
01088 Jim pattison surrey 040 - sold - photos seen in forum

This is actually excellent information. I have added it to my spreadsheet. It is a bit obnoxious that there are so many dealers called Jim Pattison (even more in Manitoba!), but I think I eventually sorted it all out.

It brings the overall car count up to 91. I'll roll the new stats into the info soon.

Edit: Oops, confusing VTNs and dealership numbers again, don't mine me, lalala.

 

[st165]

So I was just having fun with the numbers.

1st chart: Blue is the vin numbers I've so far, Yellow is Astramael's counted allocations.
2nd chart: Based on these numbers so far, out of 800 supposed cars to come in 2023 model year, that's approximately how it's bound to be spread out - sorry Saskatchewan

 

[st165]

This is actually excellent information. I have added it to my spreadsheet. It is a bit obnoxious that there are so many dealers called Jim Pattison (even more in Manitoba!), but I think I eventually sorted it all out.

What I'm still unsure about is that Spinelli Toyota Lachine seems to have a red car and a white car, both with stock number 53010. One per @DrDevil87 and one per @Rustyoid . Not quite sure what to do with this as of yet!

It brings the overall car count up to 89 or 90. I'll roll the new stats into the info soon.

Also it looks like I was wrong about Jackson's Toyota Barrie getting 2x cars. It's the same car twice, stock number 42073. Was in two different dumps interestingly enough. Unclaimed?

42073 and 53010 aren't stock numbers. they're dealer codes. so all that means is that that dealership has got 2

 

[Astramael]

42073 and 53010 aren't stock numbers. they're dealer codes. so all that means is that that dealership has got 2

Lol yea, I moved my columns around and caught my error a minute ago. Yikes!

So that means a couple of dealerships have two!