[Maverick1]

Does anyone know if the gr Corolla will come with auto up and down on all 4 Windows?
I know that's a minor thing for most of you but my Volkswagen has it, and I've gotten used to it, and I bought the Veloster N, and it has it only on the driver side window.

While I'm at it, will the GR Corolla come with "Hill assist" where on a hill the brake is applied when you engage the clutch to stop you from rolling back.
Just asking because my Veloster N does not have that feature.

 

[Taroroot]

It has a hand brake, you should be able to do it yourself. In fact since it does not have an electronic parking brake, it might not do hill assist. But i guess with all the active safety systems, electronic braking is prob already in the system so it would be easy.
If it has auto up and down, hopefully it works, unlike my FRS which passenger side sometimes doesnt, but the dealer couldnt duplicate it so it never got fixed. Its actually a known thing that others have experienced. Just the fronts would be fine.

 

[Shindo]

Canadian dealer has told me the GR has Hill-start Assist Control (HAC)

 

[Tronic]

I think I do not drive like most people and I do not use the handbrake at all for a hill start, its just for parking only.

I come off the foot brake and go onto the throttle while releasing the clutch. I can slip the clutch to the point the car is stationary on the hill if required.

Would probably fail a driving test if I ever had to do one again, they require the handbrake to be used. If you good enough with the clutch control you don't need the hand brake.

Would be really interested to hear if anyone else's manual car driving has evolved over the years and you do the same.

 

[Maverick1]

I think I do not drive like most people and I do not use the handbrake at all for a hill start, its just for parking only.

I come off the foot brake and go onto the throttle while releasing the clutch. I can slip the clutch to the point the car is stationary on the hill if required.

Would probably fail a driving test if I ever had to do one again, they require the handbrake to be used. If you good enough with the clutch control you don't need the hand brake.

Would be really interested to hear if anyone else's manual car driving has evolved over the years and you do the same.

I too never use the hand brake unless I'm on an extremely steep hill like some of the ones found in the city of San Francisco.
I'll tell you driving a manual in that city can be challenging.

 

[Taroroot]

I can usually do it without handbrake, but its much smoother and easier on the clutch with. And then there my FX which has a more aggresive clutch and lighter flywheel, that can be a pain!

 

[Cptnslo]

I think I do not drive like most people and I do not use the handbrake at all for a hill start, its just for parking only.

I come off the foot brake and go onto the throttle while releasing the clutch. I can slip the clutch to the point the car is stationary on the hill if required.

Would probably fail a driving test if I ever had to do one again, they require the handbrake to be used. If you good enough with the clutch control you don't need the hand brake.

Would be really interested to hear if anyone else's manual car driving has evolved over the years and you do the same.

I also don’t use the handbrake on hills and such. I was taught manual where I was put on a hill and told “go up and don’t roll back” with an imaginary car behind me and the handbrake wasn’t even mentioned. You just learn to modulate the clutch and slip it quickly.
although handbrake pads are cheaper than a clutch, unless you’re riding the shit out of your clutch on a hill it’s not going to wear it even remotely enough to matter

 

[JTBros]

I think I do not drive like most people and I do not use the handbrake at all for a hill start, its just for parking only.

I come off the foot brake and go onto the throttle while releasing the clutch. I can slip the clutch to the point the car is stationary on the hill if required.

Would probably fail a driving test if I ever had to do one again, they require the handbrake to be used. If you good enough with the clutch control you don't need the hand brake.

Would be really interested to hear if anyone else's manual car driving has evolved over the years and you do the same.

Fiesta ST came with hill hold assist but I barely utilize it. Driveway at current place has a decent grade plus living in Philly got me up to speed with starting on hills pretty quickly.

Only time I’ll use the handbrake now is if I just want to take me foot off the brake while at rest for a second.

 

[A91supra]

My STI had hill assist and a handbrake. The feature was awful, and immediately disabled.

Proper hill start is handbrake on, let clutch come up till you feel the car pull, release handbrake.

Holding a car on a hill with just the clutch is bad, and shouldn't be done.

 

[Jeonsa]

My STI had hill assist and a handbrake. The feature was awful, and immediately disabled.

Proper hill start is handbrake on, let clutch come up till you feel the car pull, release handbrake.

Holding a car on a hill with just the clutch is bad, and shouldn't be done.

Yeah I mean most hill assist systems just do the same thing you would do with a handbrake by holding the brakes for a certain amount of time. Some systems are terrible though.

 

[vikGRam]

VW did a good job on this with the Golf R. Never really hesitated using it and it was a nice to have in Seattle etc but it’s not truly a deal breaker. I do wonder, as someone else mentioned though, since it’s not an electronic brake if it will be actually effective

 

[Tronic]

You guys kind of got the wrong idea about holding the car on a hill with just the clutch.

What I meant was you have so much control of the clutch you can just hold it on the hill if you wanted to.

The 1990 factory fitted clutch in my MR2 had done 234,000km when I sold it this year, the clutch had never been replaced in over 30 years. If you know how to drive a manual apparently you can get up to 300,000km out of the clutch on that car.

 

[A91supra]

Yeah I mean most hill assist systems just do the same thing you would do with a handbrake by holding the brakes for a certain amount of time. Some systems are terrible though.

Yeah the STI system was too intrusive. You'd get off the clutch to go, and the car would hold the brakes for a few seconds too long. Getting a weird braking while going effect.

 

[gazoo]

Stay on the topic… Or this will be close

 

[ADent]

Stay on the topic… Or this will be close

Can we get the title of the thread changed?

The OP posted two questions and all the posts address the second question. But the title of the thread addresses the first question.

BTW all current Toyota Corolla Hatchbacks in the USA (SE, and XSE) come with "Power windows with one-touch auto up/down". So hopefully the GR-C will also.

 

[gazoo]

Can we get the title of the thread changed?

The OP posted two questions and all the posts address the second question. But the title of the thread addresses the first question.

BTW all current Toyota Corolla Hatchbacks in the USA (SE, and XSE) come with "Power windows with one-touch auto up/down". So hopefully the GR-C will also.

We need to ask the OP before we can have it change

 

[Foxy307]

I've got a mk6 GTI with a manual hand brake and it has hill hold assist. I don't think it is dependent on the type of parking brake, it just depends on whether Toyota adds it as a feature. We will see soon though!

 

[Jooft]

VW did a good job on this with the Golf R. Never really hesitated using it and it was a nice to have in Seattle etc but it’s not truly a deal breaker. I do wonder, as someone else mentioned though, since it’s not an electronic brake if it will be actually effective

I've had an E90 with a manual parking break and hill control assist and it was flawless.