ok... I don't know much about Subaru's at all I did have a BRZ for a very short period. When I got my MR2 in Montreal I flew up and the guy picked me up in a brand new STI but didnt really pay to much attention to it. To excited for the MR2
Highly doubtful as the G16 is currently only used in an AWD setup so it'd be a lot of money to make a different trans and suspension setup for a FWD version. The GRY in Japan has a FWD version but that has a 1.3L engine, not the G16
Just heard from one of my sales managers that the new STi might not come for another 2 or 3 years. They want to test the waters with the WRX to see what people like and don't like and refine that with the STi. The STi is a big contender for me besides the GRC because while I very much prefer a GRC, my work gives money off your monthly lease based on how long you've worked there and that coupled with the employee discount makes it much nicer of a payment than if I was to get an STi as just a customer
I mean I’m sure the WRX is being released sooner than later as it is Subaru’s flagship.
Something people won’t admit regardless of the look of the car is the WRX has a solid reputation throughout the years. With recent reviews on the new regular WRX being good, I can only imagine how sorted a STi is
Oh yeah, regardless of the look it seems to be getting great reviews and is a big improvement performance wise over the previous gen. I think Subaru right now is just playing around with how they want it the STi to look and if they really want to make 400hp right now. The 2.4T can definitely take it as it's a well built motor but I'm sure they're trying to balance the experience with a good torque curve and good power to weight
Well originally when we first all met, I was curious on why people aren’t considering the WRX since it is a rally bred car. The GRC is awesome but it’s still jumping into a market that’s been owned by the Type R and STi.
I'm sure a big thing is the styling of the new one. It's very controversial despite the car in general just being better than the out going one. The no increase in power also is disappointing people. I'm personally not considering it as I absolutely hate the iPad for a radio and the fact that Subaru infotainment isn't great. That and the fact that I think Subaru has lost their charm and rally hertiage, the WRX is more sport car than rally car now to me. I'm hoping the new STi revives some of that spirit but no one really knows much about the next STi, not even dealers
Honestly with the information we know on the GRC, at face value it’s going to perform like a Toyota version of a WRX if you think about it. Not a bad thing but kind of truth.
I feel like whenever Subaru brings out a new Impreza/WRX, fanboys always complain about it, then in 5 years, they're like "This is the purest driver's car out there. Anyone who says anything bad about it is just jealous."
I can live with the wheel arches, and my wife has an Outback with a big infotainment that I'm not a huge fan of, but we mostly use AA or Carplay anyway. The only thing that I really dislike about it is the rear bumper/diffuser thing. It's a little too much.
I think for the money the WRX is still the best bang for the buck. Still 270 hp, 250 torque at around 28k. Compared to the competition that’s pretty good.
The STi was always a great alternative to the Type R too without as much markup everywhere.
One thing I was telling my wife is we all know the GRC launch is gonna be rough and markups are inevitable. With that I know for a fact some people will get turned off and buy a STi or WRX.
Definitely going to test drive one when my work can eventually get our hands on one. Drove the new BRZ the other day and it is such an improvement over the last gen and just an overall great driver
You still can't even spec a WRX out on the website and the plant for it was shut down again so it'll be awhile before we see any. Especially for stock cars and not just allocations/orders
I never owned the previous gen but I've driven many of them in WRX and STi form. Even drove the Type RA a few times and the S209. S209 definitely didn't feel $70k but I'm sure this new gen is going to drive a lot better. I'll be shocked if they eventually do a S210. I just wish they did like a more rally-inspired edition. All the editions have just been exclusive colors with black badges other than the RA which was just a small kit but more track focused
I have access to the new WRX service information now if anyone wants to know anything. Pretty sure I won't get in trouble since the car is revealed and the information is just standard stuff
I wonder how much heavier the STi will be for whatever year it comes out. If it weighs 3500lbs with 400hp, that's pretty great and would beat the Focus RS' power-to-weight
The last STi was basically 3500lbs and I'm pretty sure the FA24 will be lighter than the EJ25 so it'll be interesting if it stays in the 3400-3500lb range or if they take some weight savings into account and make it lighter. I bet it'll keep the same weight since they're boosting the power substantially
WRX has become large but that's partly due to the fact it isn't an Impreza anymore but even the Impreza got big. Bit sad they got rid of the Crystal White Pearl in favour of the limted edition Ceramic White since I love pearl paints. Plus the Ceramic White was exclusive to the WRX and STi Series.White and BRZ tS
At the end of the day, the WRX is just your fun daily and the STi is the real track car. They aren't quite Legacy size yet, however the body is definitely not Impreza sized anymore but they made that clear when they dropped the Impreza name in 2015. The WRX has been going towards a different car since then and it's very evident now
I mean they separated the name to focus more on the whole performance aspect while keeping the Impreza as a tame get around car.
Them moving to a global platform is more for saving money and simplifying build processes. Everybody working with Mazda has pretty much adopted the whole global platform idea. (Skyactiv, TNGA, SGP)
Downside is the WRX is going to inherit some qualities from its suv mates.
Despite that it still dynamically manages to stay in the same realm as the Golf and upcoming GRC which is applauded. My friend is pretty excited for the car, he wanted a AWD sporty car that can hold a small family.
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